# 2733 byrmenich@... on April 11, 2002, 11:08 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm
Ron
# 2734 byfreetrader2300@... on April 15, 2002, 5:47 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
--- In spacesettlers@y..., rmenich@m... wrote:
> http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm
>
> Comments?
the test vehicle by the three tether lines and then simply
invert/crop the photo to make it appear that they were holding it
down. On the other hand, assuming that this is for real:
1. Can it be "scaled-up" to lift meaningful payloads?
2. Could a scaled-up vehicle reach LEO?
3. Would the power requirements for the LEO capable vehicle be so
great that the design becomes impractical?
4. Would this work in deep space?
Steve Whitting
freetrader2300@...
# 2735 bystcfarms@... on April 15, 2002, 6:51 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
we are looking for skeptics like yourself. We intend to launch this solar
furnace into orbit and we need people that are not yes men. Please look this
over and let us know what you think. Thank you, Jerry Scovel.
From: "Freetrader2300"
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 12:21 PM
--- In spacesettlers@y..., rmenich@m... wrote:
> http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm
>
> Comments?
The skeptic in me says that it would have been really easy to suspend
the test vehicle by the three tether lines and then simply
invert/crop the photo to make it appear that they were holding it
down. On the other hand, assuming that this is for real:
1. Can it be "scaled-up" to lift meaningful payloads?
2. Could a scaled-up vehicle reach LEO?
3. Would the power requirements for the LEO capable vehicle be so
great that the design becomes impractical?
4. Would this work in deep space?
Steve Whitting
freetrader2300@...
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Re: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
Steve, you have mistakenly sent this to me. Your comments are very good and we are looking for skeptics like yourself. We intend to launch this solar furnace into orbit and we need people that are not yes men. Please look this over and let us know what you think. Thank you, Jerry Scovel.
----------
From: "Freetrader2300"
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 12:21 PM
--- In spacesettlers@y..., rmenich@m... wrote:
> http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html>
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm>
>
> Comments?
The skeptic in me says that it would have been really easy to suspend
the test vehicle by the three tether lines and then simply
invert/crop the photo to make it appear that they were holding it
down. On the other hand, assuming that this is for real:
1. Can it be "scaled-up" to lift meaningful payloads?
2. Could a scaled-up vehicle reach LEO?
3. Would the power requirements for the LEO capable vehicle be so
great that the design becomes impractical?
4. Would this work in deep space?
Steve Whitting
freetrader2300@...
# 2736 bystcfarms@... on April 15, 2002, 9:33 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea
before
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 1:21 PM
Steve, you have mistakenly sent this to me. Your comments are very good and
we are looking for skeptics like yourself. We intend to launch this solar
furnace into orbit and we need people that are not yes men. Please look this
over and let us know what you think. Thank you, Jerry Scovel.
From: "Freetrader2300"
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 12:21 PM
--- In spacesettlers@y..., rmenich@m... wrote:
> http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm
>
> Comments?
The skeptic in me says that it would have been really easy to suspend
the test vehicle by the three tether lines and then simply
invert/crop the photo to make it appear that they were holding it
down. On the other hand, assuming that this is for real:
1. Can it be "scaled-up" to lift meaningful payloads?
2. Could a scaled-up vehicle reach LEO?
3. Would the power requirements for the LEO capable vehicle be so
great that the design becomes impractical?
4. Would this work in deep space?
Steve Whitting
freetrader2300@...
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Re: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
----------
From: "Jerry Scovel"
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 1:21 PM
Steve, you have mistakenly sent this to me. Your comments are very good and we are looking for skeptics like yourself. We intend to launch this solar furnace into orbit and we need people that are not yes men. Please look this over and let us know what you think. Thank you, Jerry Scovel.
----------
From: "Freetrader2300" freetrader2300@...>
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 12:21 PM
--- In spacesettlers@y..., rmenich@m... wrote:
> http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html>
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm>
> Comments?
The skeptic in me says that it would have been really easy to suspend
the test vehicle by the three tether lines and then simply
invert/crop the photo to make it appear that they were holding it
down. On the other hand, assuming that this is for real:
1. Can it be "scaled-up" to lift meaningful payloads?
2. Could a scaled-up vehicle reach LEO?
3. Would the power requirements for the LEO capable vehicle be so
great that the design becomes impractical?
4. Would this work in deep space?
Steve Whitting
# 2737 bystcfarms@... on April 15, 2002, 10:02 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea
before
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 1:21 PM
Steve, you have mistakenly sent this to me. Your comments are very good and
we are looking for skeptics like yourself. We intend to launch this solar
furnace into orbit and we need people that are not yes men. Please look this
over and let us know what you think. Thank you, Jerry Scovel.
From: "Freetrader2300"
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 12:21 PM
--- In spacesettlers@y..., rmenich@m... wrote:
> http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm
>
> Comments?
The skeptic in me says that it would have been really easy to suspend
the test vehicle by the three tether lines and then simply
invert/crop the photo to make it appear that they were holding it
down. On the other hand, assuming that this is for real:
1. Can it be "scaled-up" to lift meaningful payloads?
2. Could a scaled-up vehicle reach LEO?
3. Would the power requirements for the LEO capable vehicle be so
great that the design becomes impractical?
4. Would this work in deep space?
Steve Whitting
freetrader2300@...
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Re: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
----------
From: "Jerry Scovel"
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 1:21 PM
Steve, you have mistakenly sent this to me. Your comments are very good and we are looking for skeptics like yourself. We intend to launch this solar furnace into orbit and we need people that are not yes men. Please look this over and let us know what you think. Thank you, Jerry Scovel.
----------
From: "Freetrader2300" freetrader2300@...>
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea before
Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 12:21 PM
--- In spacesettlers@y..., rmenich@m... wrote:
> http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html http://www.faraday.ru/t-cap.html>
> http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/lifter3.htm>
> Comments?
The skeptic in me says that it would have been really easy to suspend
the test vehicle by the three tether lines and then simply
invert/crop the photo to make it appear that they were holding it
down. On the other hand, assuming that this is for real:
1. Can it be "scaled-up" to lift meaningful payloads?
2. Could a scaled-up vehicle reach LEO?
3. Would the power requirements for the LEO capable vehicle be so
great that the design becomes impractical?
4. Would this work in deep space?
Steve Whitting
# 2738 bylucio@... on April 16, 2002, 2:40 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
Hi,
with attachments. Hereinafter, anyone willing to send files will have to
make them available at the files area of the group.
The message below has a size over 400K and it took some time to download
even in the fast connection that I am using right now. Besides, perhaps due
received it twice. I think that the time to download this using a dial-up
connection would be too long, and that's the justification for my decision.
Yours,
Lucio de Souza Coelho
Group Owner
From: "Jerry Scovel"
To:
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea
before
>
> ----------
> From: "Jerry Scovel"
> To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [spacesettlers] Re: I hadn't heard of this propulsion idea
> before
> Date: Mon, Apr 15, 2002, 1:21 PM
>
> Steve, you have mistakenly sent this to me. Your comments are very good
and
> we are looking for skeptics like yourself. We intend to launch this solar
> furnace into orbit and we need people that are not yes men. Please look
this
# 2739 bybestonnet_00@... on April 17, 2002, 7:18 a.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
You made the right decision. Although people just shouldn't send attachments
to mailing lists in the first place.
have a quota. Large attachments tend to fill that quota up.
I was actually thinking about sending a flame about that message but decided I
couldn't be bothered making it look civil.
--- Lucio_de_Souza_Coelho wrote:
# 2740 bystcfarms@... on April 17, 2002, 10:27 a.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
I'm sorry, I didn't know about your web based mailers, some of us actually
have the balls to use our real names and adresses. Your names and
organization have been deleted from our database. On a personal note people
with pc's that flame macs, lose.
# 2741 bybestonnet_00@... on April 17, 2002, 10:42 a.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
--- Jerry Scovel wrote:
> I'm sorry, I didn't know about your web based mailers, some of us actually
> have the balls to use our real names and adresses.
account on your ISP that has a different name to your real one?
With most ISPs it's trival.
> Your names and organization have been deleted from our database.
Why would I want to be in your database anyway?
> On a personal note people with pc's that flame macs, lose.
What is the relavance of that? Other then PC's being better then macs.