
Thanks for the clue. The information I was looking for was at NIAC.
For those of you who are interested, the specific reference is
I knew that someone on this list would be able to point me in the
right direction.
Thanks to all of you. Without your help I would have been searching
endlessly.
> Hi Folks,
>
> This technology and some no-propellant applications were pretty
well
> scoped out in 07Jan00, with quite favorable conclusions and
prospects for
> cargo missions (even for interstellar mission end-phase brakings):
>
http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/final_report/html/320Zubrin/32
0Zubrin.html
>
> Hope this helps,
> DAM
>
> >> I'm hoping that someone on this list can point me to the info
I'm
> >> looking for.
> >>
> >> About a year ago I came came across a website, I think it was
NASA
> >> affiliated, that described a technology in which energy is
poured
> >> into, I think it was a plasma, and with very little maintenance
> >> energy, this plasma ring? served as a battery. Supposedly it had
> >> pretty high theoretical energy density. You could pour immense
> >> amounts of energy in, let's say at a re-fueling station in LEO,
and
> >> then use it as a means of propulsion for a sacecraft.
> >>
> >> It has been argued that a super conductor ring could store
energy by simply
> >getting a current going in it, which would make a magnetic field
storing
> >energy, but are limits as to the field strength at which super
conductors
> >remain super conducting, and also the strength of the materials,
since the
> >fields "want" to lower their energy by spreading out.
> >
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I have some basic questions about this "invention". Accelerating charges
radiate, a basic principle which makes radio possible. How can the charges
of the plasma be kept from radiating from their circular motion and
collisions, draining the energy? I must admit I do not have the time to
read this material, but I doubt that energy can be stored for more than a
fraction of a second using this method. That is why super conductors were
considered. These ideas are not new, they were considered in the 1980's if
not before. The bottom line is I would not invest money or energy in this
without an objective review (don't take this for a review, it is just a
statement of caution, but any honest reviewer should explain the energy loss
problems.)
Sincerely, Jay Huebner
For those of you who are interested, the specific reference is
http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/final_report/pdf/23Seward.pdf
I knew that someone on this list would be able to point me in the
right direction.
Thanks to all of you. Without your help I would have been searching
endlessly.
> Hi Folks,
>
> This technology and some no-propellant applications were pretty
well
> scoped out in 07Jan00, with quite favorable conclusions and
prospects for
> cargo missions (even for interstellar mission end-phase brakings):
>
http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/final_report/html/320Zubrin/32
0Zubrin.html
>
> Hope this helps,
> DAM
>
> >> I'm hoping that someone on this list can point me to the info
I'm
> >> looking for.
> >>
> >> About a year ago I came came across a website, I think it was
NASA
> >> affiliated, that described a technology in which energy is
poured
> >> into, I think it was a plasma, and with very little maintenance
> >> energy, this plasma ring? served as a battery. Supposedly it had
> >> pretty high theoretical energy density. You could pour immense
> >> amounts of energy in, let's say at a re-fueling station in LEO,
and
> >> then use it as a means of propulsion for a sacecraft.
> >>
> >> It has been argued that a super conductor ring could store
energy by simply
> >getting a current going in it, which would make a magnetic field
storing
> >energy, but are limits as to the field strength at which super
conductors
> >remain super conducting, and also the strength of the materials,
since the
> >fields "want" to lower their energy by spreading out.
> >
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Good questions. Honestly, I don't have the answers for you. I
remember that the concept intrigued me when I read it a while back,
and now I plan on reading it again and thinking about what the
author has written. I'll keep your questions in the forefront of my
mind. I've only had two years of univ. physics and that was a number
of years ago, so even after I've digested this material I may not be
in a position to properly answer your questions. Others on the list
might though, and I'd be very interested in what people have to say
about this matter.
charges
> radiate, a basic principle which makes radio possible. How can
the charges
> of the plasma be kept from radiating from their circular motion and
> collisions, draining the energy? I must admit I do not have the
time to
> read this material, but I doubt that energy can be stored for more
than a
> fraction of a second using this method. That is why super
conductors were
> considered. These ideas are not new, they were considered in the
1980's if
> not before. The bottom line is I would not invest money or energy
in this
> without an objective review (don't take this for a review, it is
just a
> statement of caution, but any honest reviewer should explain the
energy loss
> problems.)
> Sincerely, Jay Huebner
>
> Thanks for the clue. The information I was looking for was at
NIAC.
> For those of you who are interested, the specific reference is
>
http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/final_report/pdf/23Seward.pdf
>
> I knew that someone on this list would be able to point me in the
> right direction.
>
> Thanks to all of you. Without your help I would have been
searching
> endlessly.
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > This technology and some no-propellant applications were pretty
> well
> > scoped out in 07Jan00, with quite favorable conclusions and
> prospects for
> > cargo missions (even for interstellar mission end-phase
brakings):
> >
http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/final_report/html/320Zubrin/32
> 0Zubrin.html
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> > DAM
> >
> > >> I'm hoping that someone on this list can point me to the
info
> I'm
> > >> looking for.
> > >>
> > >> About a year ago I came came across a website, I think it was
> NASA
> > >> affiliated, that described a technology in which energy is
> poured
> > >> into, I think it was a plasma, and with very little
maintenance
> > >> energy, this plasma ring? served as a battery. Supposedly it
had
> > >> pretty high theoretical energy density. You could pour immense
> > >> amounts of energy in, let's say at a re-fueling station in
LEO,
> and
> > >> then use it as a means of propulsion for a sacecraft.
> > >>
> > >> It has been argued that a super conductor ring could store
> energy by simply
> > >getting a current going in it, which would make a magnetic
field
> storing
> > >energy, but are limits as to the field strength at which super
> conductors
> > >remain super conducting, and also the strength of the
materials,
> since the
> > >fields "want" to lower their energy by spreading out.
> > >
> > Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift
ideas.