
What will the impact of space development be on science and
technology? Why? How?
Base your answers on however you define "space development". We all
have some appreciation of the commercial value of the space
environment and the industrial and economic impact the development of
that environment might mean to the human race. But specifically how
is space-based cosmology, for example, better (or worse) than
terrestrial cosmology? What other scientific disciplines will be
positively affected by the development of space? And how will
technological advances affect science in space?
Thanks.
Jack

Thanks Jack,
I think this line could be very useful, and I want to encourage it so
here are some suggestions to further encourage discussion. One should
distinguish evolutionary changes from revolutionary changes. It is easier
(but not necessarily easy) to predict how existing industries and services
based on space technology will continue to improve in evolutionary ways with
incremental changes. Such things as weather forecasting, ocean
surveillance, navigation, communications, and so on. Also many sciences
such as astronomy, oceanography, geology, forest managements, high tech
farming (using GPS), and so on will continue to benefit. It is not easy to
make a real list of all of the industries which benefit from current space
technology, but it would be a service to make and distribute such lists.
Many new industries, such as those which now use GPS, will emerge. And the
military certainly has been a stimulus in this and other areas.
Revolutionary changes are much harder to predict, though SSI was founded to
promote some of them.
Sincerely, Jay Huebner
technology? Why? How?
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Base your answers on however you define "space development". We all
have some appreciation of the commercial value of the space
environment and the industrial and economic impact the development of
that environment might mean to the human race. But specifically how
is space-based cosmology, for example, better (or worse) than
terrestrial cosmology? What other scientific disciplines will be
positively affected by the development of space? And how will
technological advances affect science in space?
Thanks.
Jack

Easy access to zero gravity and hard vacuum will bring to light a huge
number of serendipitous discoveries. I think a perfect example is the
unexpected properties of a water film in zero-g - see
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/25feb_nosoap.htm?list71523
At least a handful of these serendipitous discoveries will be
significant enough to revolutionize industrial processes, scientific
research tools, and will spawn new space-based businesses. But, in the
nature of serendipity, and discovery in general, there's no way to tell
right now what these will be. The important thing is that we have people
in space with the free time and inclination to follow their curiosity.

Jack,
Any undertaking in large scale development will create
advances in science and technology. Whether it is in
putting up space habitats or underwater cities or a
global effort to cure cancer.
That being said, I believe it is best to look at this
question in terms of what advances that space
development can give us, that cannot be achieved
otherwise.
Jay has already picked out a few areas that I would
like to regroup to put some order to the list:
1) Development that monitor the Earth for scientific
purposes (weather, NASA's earth obs program,)
2) Development that provides new commercial services
to the Earth (remote sensing, commsats, sat tv/radio,
gps, manufacturing techniques)
3) Development leading to technologies for furthering
space exploration (propulsion, remote sensing
instruments, communication subsystems, power supplies,
etc)
4) Science goals obtainable from space (being able to
view high energy wavelengths, NASA's origin program,
astrobiology, search for life/intelligence, planetary
geology)
5) Military developments (important group if trying
to get whole picture, this includes warning system for
asteroid impacts, missile defense, remote sensing,
communication eavesdropping, radar)
These five categories can further be explored on an
individual basis for a more exhaustive listing, but it
does give a focus for discussing such a broad topic.
As Arthur has suggested, the most amazing developments
are often serendipous discoveries. One of my favorite
examples is to look at radio astronomy for a good
example as a serendipous discovery spawning a
scientific revolution. When Carl Jansky first
discovered radio waves interfering with his work at
Bell Labs in the 1930s, most scientists ignored him.
However, thanks to all the left over radio equipment
after WWII, radio astronomy was able to take off and
go on to discover quasars and pulsars and identify
many interstellar gases! (not to mention spawning
SETI)
Ryan

Thanks for your input, Jay. Very helpful and you make some excellent
points.
> Thanks Jack,
> I think this line could be very useful, and I want to encourage
it so
> here are some suggestions to further encourage discussion. One
should
> distinguish evolutionary changes from revolutionary changes. It is
easier
> (but not necessarily easy) to predict how existing industries and
services
> based on space technology will continue to improve in evolutionary
ways with
> incremental changes. Such things as weather forecasting, ocean
> surveillance, navigation, communications, and so on. Also many
sciences
> such as astronomy, oceanography, geology, forest managements, high
tech
> farming (using GPS), and so on will continue to benefit. It is not
easy to
> make a real list of all of the industries which benefit from
current space
> technology, but it would be a service to make and distribute such
lists.
> Many new industries, such as those which now use GPS, will emerge.
And the
> military certainly has been a stimulus in this and other areas.
> Revolutionary changes are much harder to predict, though SSI was
founded to
> promote some of them.
> Sincerely, Jay Huebner
>
> What will the impact of space development be on science and
> technology? Why? How?
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Base your answers on however you define "space development". We all
> have some appreciation of the commercial value of the space
> environment and the industrial and economic impact the development
of

--- In ssi_list@... "Arthur P. Smith"
> Easy access to zero gravity and hard vacuum will bring to light a
huge
> number of serendipitous discoveries.
Between space tourism, cheaper access to space, Mars and lunar bases,
etc., it seems the promise of microgravity research has eluded many
space advocates. As long as the current market for space industry can
absorb the high costs, there's little incentive to lower them. I
believe microgravity research has the potential to provide that
incentive.
> I think a perfect example is the
> unexpected properties of a water film in zero-g - see
> http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/25feb_nosoap.htm?
list71523
> At least a handful of these serendipitous discoveries will be
> significant enough to revolutionize industrial processes,
scientific
> research tools, and will spawn new space-based businesses. But, in
the
> nature of serendipity, and discovery in general, there's no way to
tell
> right now what these will be.
That's the problem from my perspective. Until that revolutionary
discovery is made, involvement in microgravity research will be
limited by the high cost. It's tough to make a case for microgravity
research without a firm example of the potential. But I believe it is
a case that can and must be made.
> The important thing is that we have people
> in space with the free time and inclination to follow their
curiosity.
Well, I personally advocate the use of unmanned, automated or
telecontroled laboratories in LEO to start. I have argured on behalf
of the MULE (was MUOL) concept before, no reason to repeat it.
Excellent points, Authur. Thanks for your input and insight.
Jack

> Jack,
>
> The question while a good starter is a bit too broad.
subject - the impact of space development on human knowledge. This
effort was preceded by a paper on the impact threat of NEOs. Now the
subject of impact threats was quite easy to research. A lot of
information is available on this threat and it was quite easy to
find. Trying to discuss the impact of space development on science,
however, was much tougher. It is broad and difficult to chop into
manageable pieces without already having some knowledge of the
disciplines potentially effected. Lacking that knowledge myself, I
thought it best to seek the advice of other space advocates who
perhaps have already considered the implications of space development
on science and human knowledge in general.
> Any undertaking in large scale development will create
> advances in science and technology. Whether it is in
> putting up space habitats or underwater cities or a
> global effort to cure cancer.
>
> That being said, I believe it is best to look at this
> question in terms of what advances that space
> development can give us, that cannot be achieved
> otherwise.
>
> Jay has already picked out a few areas that I would
> like to regroup to put some order to the list:
>
> 1) Development that monitor the Earth for scientific
> purposes (weather, NASA's earth obs program,)
>
> 2) Development that provides new commercial services
> to the Earth (remote sensing, commsats, sat tv/radio,
> gps, manufacturing techniques)
>
> 3) Development leading to technologies for furthering
> space exploration (propulsion, remote sensing
> instruments, communication subsystems, power supplies,
> etc)
>
> 4) Science goals obtainable from space (being able to
> view high energy wavelengths, NASA's origin program,
> astrobiology, search for life/intelligence, planetary
> geology)
>
> 5) Military developments (important group if trying
> to get whole picture, this includes warning system for
> asteroid impacts, missile defense, remote sensing,
> communication eavesdropping, radar)
Excellent division of topics. With your permission, I'd like to use
it.
> These five categories can further be explored on an
> individual basis for a more exhaustive listing, but it
> does give a focus for discussing such a broad topic.
Yes and that is what I needed. Thanks.
Jack

Hi all
I'd like to add a couple of considerations:
Have you considered talking to members of the World Futures Society about
this subject? I'm thinking that as the primary focus of the World Futures
Society is on the effect that science and technology will have on society,
that they would have useful insights. May I suggest Joseph Coates as a
first point of contact? Dr Coates is a practitioner of science and
technology foresight, which as a field of science has an established track
record.
Have you considered expanding the discussion in your paper to the forms of
human knowledge that do not include science? I assume from the discussion
so far that human knowledge only equals the physical sciences. Please do
let me know if this has been an assumption on my part. An example of the
social impacts on humanity might be found in Frank White's book "The
Overview Effect" (Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston, 1987). From the cover
blurb: "Using interviews with and writings by 24 astronauts and cosmonauts,
Frank White shows how experiences such as circling the Earth every ninety
minutes and viewing it from the moon have profoundly affected our space
travelers' perceptions of themselves, their world and the future. He shows
how the rest of us, who have participated imaginatively in these great
adventures, have also been affected psuchologically by them."
Another way of looking at how space development has affected human
knowledge, would be to look at how three commonly-used metaphors of the
space age have affected human aspirations. I'm thinking of the metaphors
of:
1) Buckminster Fuller's "Spaceship Earth"
2) the Easter Island metaphor, which draws links to the Easter Islanders
cutting down all their trees, so that they couldn't build boats to escape
their "tragedy of the commons" crisis.
3) The Cheng Ho 15th century China metaphor, which supposes that if the
Chinese emperor hadn't curtailed naval expenditure, then China would have
colonised America before Spain.
Has anyone considered that the sorts of scientific advances that might
eventuate depend on the the people who are paying for the research? For
example, NASA or the NSF would be paying for basic research, whereas SSI
will be paying for research that has a direct commercial benefit. Compare
the budgets of the NSF and SSI, and you'll see that advances in basic
research will far outnumber those in commercial applications, based solely
on the amount of dollars invested. As assessment of the excellence of the
science will also be needed to evaluate how quickly advances might be made.
For example, if defense research has the best researchers, it may well be
that even if they were operating on a shoestring budget, they might produce
better results.
Regards
Andrew Wynberg

RE: "... access to zero gravity and hard vacuum ..." I agree with the
implications that access to low cost conditions that provide manufacturing
advantages can be beneficial. Micro-g and vacuum are useful but are only
part of the story. There are three others that I know would also be very
useful.
1) High and low temperatures. Focused solar energy can reach 6000 K, and
shade from it can provide perhaps 60 K, depending on the heat flow and the
local environment. The solar energy is also accessible for driving
photochemical reactions, for one example, the natural production of ozone in
Earth's atmosphere. This energy flow can also be used for welding,
distillation, zone refining, etc. Many forms of energy for manufacturing
will be cheap in solar space.
2. Large volumes for manufacturing, for example, reaction vessels to
process organic materials, which on Earth is usually done in condensed phase
(liquid, or gases at 1 atm. or above) could be done in space in volumes of
cubic kilometers and therefore using dilute gas and plasma phases. With
solar flux, new methods of manufacturing pharmaceuticals, fullerenes, etc.
can be investigated. It might be cheaper in space to make amino acids
(which we need in our diet, and normally get from proteins) directly using
sunlight than to grow animals for their flesh.
3. Bulk (low cost) materials from asteroids and comets. A small solid
"M" or metal asteroid such as Amun, probably has a mass of 30 billions
tones, and contains (at current Earth market prices) $ 8,000 billion worth
of iron and nickel, $ 6,000 billion worth of cobalt, and $ 6,000 billion
worth of platinum-group metals. See page 112 of John S. Lewis' Mining the
Sky, Helix Books, 1996. Having access to such materials would assist space
manufacturing.
Another useful market for products made in space would be devices which
can now be built on Earth, like 30 foot diameter glass telescope mirror,
which would be nice to have in space, but they can not be lifted from Earth
on any existing space craft to orbit. They could be manufactured in space.
There are many such devices like this, and once folks started thinking about
others, there will be many more envisioned.
4. An honest presentation must also mention disadvantages of orbital
manufacturing. Labor will be high! And for products destined for Earth
markets, transportation costs for down shipments could be significant.
Perhaps those costs could be lowered by building re-entry vehicles in space
for one way trips down. Or perhaps building these devices which after
making a trip down carrying freight, could be re-manufactured or outfitted
to become full blown space craft for being launched from Earth, sort of an
empty shell of a space shuttle like craft.
Best wishes, Jay Huebner

> What will the impact of space development be on science and
> technology? Why? How?
Imagine first a radio telescope one kilometer in diameter: thrice the diameter of Arecibo and about ten times its sensitivity; it can lock onto a source 24/7 rather than a few minutes per day as Arecibo can, since Arecibo is fixed in a bowl-shaped depression in the ground. Then imagine a number of these, creating an array the size of the Moon's orbit around the Earth.
Expand this to dishes several km in diameter, in orbits out beyond Pluto, cooled down to liquid nitrogen temperatures by the sheer distance from the Sun, and forming an array the size of the solar system.
Then imagine how radio astronomy may benefit from such sensitivity and resolution.
Imagine optical telescopes built on the same principle. Such arrays are already in use on Earth. Imagine an array of mirrors with an effective aperture of hundreds of meters. We could see the sunspots on nearby stars, or map planetary surfaces and monitor weather systems on planets of nearby stars. This would still be difficult and expensive, of course: perhaps kilometer sized arrays of mirrors, the distance between them fixed and known to an accuracy of a fraction of the wavelength of the light being detected.
A single optical telescope on each side of the Sun, at Pluto's distance, would enable us to measure the parallaxes of nearby stars to thirty times the present accuracy, thus determining their distances from us to this accuracy, and stars thirty times as distant as presently may have their distances measured by parallax. Since parallax measurements are the first step in measuring the distance to *any* distant object, this increased accuracy would benefit distance measurements out to the quasars. Or two or three such telescopes could be sent out in interstellar space: each year would bring greater accuracy as they receded from each other.
The gravitational constant could be measured to a very great accuracy by letting two metal balls orbit each other. The product of the gravitational constant and the Earth's mass are known to nine or more digits, but the gravitational constant itself is known to much lesser accuracy. It would certainly be a natural high school science experiment, to verify the gravitational constant to within one or two significant figures.
Of course the above instruments, particularly the optical telescopes, could be launched from the Earth without any industrial infrastructure in space. But it would be much cheaper to do so from space.
Space colonies could be sent into orbit around the various planets, to serve as bases from which to observe the planetary surfaces and send probes down, returning material for analysis at the base. Later, such bases would be excellent for manned landings.