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Re: Environmentalism?
# 18554 byValens Agnitio on Nov. 22, 2003, 7:32 p.m.
Member since 2022-08-22

In light of the excellent series of exchanges between TangoMan and the Environmentalist, I thought that said Environmentalist should have a look at this interesting post I found in my web crawling. In fact, it is a rather illuminating, if not humorous, look at another facet of the environamentalist movement. Val http://neptune.spacebears.com/opine/greencar.html From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, youll find a range of helpful holiday info here.

# 18555 byXenophile on Nov. 22, 2003, 11:22 p.m.
Member since 2022-08-22

That was interesting. Of course, most 'vironmentalists aren't trying
to tell people what they are *allowed* to drive, which seems to be
this guy's fixation, they are saying what they think people *should*
drive. I will never understand the way some folks aways take "people
should eat less saturated fat" and mutate that into "the food police
are trying to control me!" But again, this was interesting. One
wonders if there is some problem with the Insight, like it breaks
down a lot or something.

Xenophile (bicycle & walking and busses and trains and asking my
sister for a ride... and I'm not even much of an environmentalist!)

# 18556 byValens Agnitio on Nov. 23, 2003, 5:43 p.m.
Member since 2022-08-22

Xeno. I challenge you to drive a large SUV in San Francisco for awhile... Believe me, there are plenty of people who will feel it necessary to tell you what to drive - they even have arsonized SUV dealerships. However, I just thought it interesting to view the environmental rhetoric in light of the actual numbers, i.e., have them put their money and efforts where their mouths are - which they evidently are not doing. It kind of takes the wind out of a lot of their rants (or discussions - you call it). Shouldn't they all buy Insights and Motorcycles?

# 18557 byXenophile on Nov. 23, 2003, 6:45 p.m.
Member since 2022-08-22

> Xeno. I challenge you to drive a large SUV in San Francisco for
> awhile... Believe me, there are plenty of people who will feel it
> necessary to tell you what to drive

Live in Dallas, don't drive. Wouldn't drive one of those tanks
around with nobody but me in it. BTW, remember What Would Jesus
Drive? Jesus would've driven an SUV, 'cause He had to schlep these
twelve other guys around with Him. It's reasonable to drive one in
that case (though the roll-over hazard is something to think about).

> - they even have arsonized SUV dealerships. However, I just thought

I've heard about that. If the environmental movement wants to be
taken seriously (and as something that other want to be a part of),
they might start by doing a better job of policing their own.

> it interesting to view the environmental rhetoric in light of the
> actual numbers, i.e., have them put their money and efforts where
> their mouths are - which they evidently are not doing. It kind of

I found it very interesting. If I ever buy a car, I will keep this
in mind. I'm a pretty piss-poor excuse for an environmentalist, but
I might as well take environmental factors into account. I mean, if
the Insight breaks down or has dangerously low acceleration, then no,
but if it is a good car...

> takes the wind out of a lot of their rants (or discussions - you
> call it). Shouldn't they all buy Insights and Motorcycles?

Yep. And if they would, then other companies (Ford? Saturn?) would
start making them. Even hybrid SUV's might become marketable.

Xenophile (who advocates SPS, making him a better environmentalist
than some)