# 19919 byvictoriatangoman on June 17, 2004, 6:08 p.m.
Member since 2022-08-22
Crossposted from another group:
> Postitution represents a public danger here and now because of
> lethal and debilitating communicable deseases. However, theis
> danger can be almost totally eliminated by the pre-selection
> process (medical hsitory and examinations). Prostitution could be
> made legal.
Your statement brings to mind another conundrum; if the immigrant
population is selected to be free of sexually communicable diseases,
then you'll have a population pool that won't have to fear Herpes
and AIDS as well as the treatable diseases like syphillis and
gonnorhea. The result is likely to be a freer sexual attitude and
more worry about introducing such diseases into the *clean
population* through lax immigration controls.
What impact will this have on tourism and short term business
visits? Will strict health screening and quarantines be de rigeur or
will they be such a hassle that the attempt to eradicate
communicable sexual diseases within the population will fail for a
closed cycle cannot be assured.
Any thoughts?
TangoMan
# 19920 byThor Olson on June 17, 2004, 10:32 p.m.
Member since 2022-08-22
My thought is you would be lucky to have so many
people with the time and energy to engage in sex at
all. Until you have a sizeable population, everybody
is - well - living in tight spaces. Would anybody
want to risk infidelity or strained relations over
jealousy.
Still there has been a steady drop in activity (sperm
counts included) that is not easily explained. If it
is part of the highly competitive modern world then
space dwellers are going to be hard at work building a
future and not dating each other. Like so many dual
income professional couples, most nights nothing
happens.
Pragmatism says not much is going to happen.
- Thor
Crossposted from another group:
--- In howtobuildaspacehabitat@...
sol_expanse
> Postitution represents a public danger here and now
because of lethal and debilitating communicable
deseases. However, this danger can be almost totally
eliminated by the pre-selection process (medical
hsitory and examinations). Prostitution could be
> made legal.
Your statement brings to mind another conundrum; if
the immigrant population is selected to be free of
sexually communicable diseases, then you'll have a
population pool that won't have to fear Herpes
and AIDS as well as the treatable diseases like
syphillis and gonnorhea. The result is likely to be a
freer sexual attitude and more worry about introducing
such diseases into the *clean
population* through lax immigration controls.
What impact will this have on tourism and short term
business visits? Will strict health screening and
quarantines be de rigeur or will they be such a hassle
that the attempt to eradicate communicable sexual
diseases within the population will fail for a
closed cycle cannot be assured.
Any thoughts?
TangoMan
# 19921 byXenophile on June 20, 2004, 10:23 p.m.
Member since 2022-08-22
> My thought is you would be lucky to have so many
> people with the time and energy to engage in sex at
> all. Until you have a sizeable population, everybody
> is - well - living in tight spaces. Would anybody
> want to risk infidelity or strained relations over
> jealousy.
People do. Every day. And how about the people who are not married,
engaged, or in long-term (though non-marital) relationships? No
infidelity there, nor any need for jealosy.
> I may come off as a moralist in thinking this way.
> Still there has been a steady drop in activity (sperm
> counts included) that is not easily explained. If it
> is part of the highly competitive modern world then
> space dwellers are going to be hard at work building a
> future and not dating each other.
Perhaps, though it would contradict the entire history of the human
race. Look at the history of fronteir towns, and you will see people
hard at work building a future... and having sex. Sometimes married
sex, sometimes adulterous sex, sometimes casual or professional sex.
Who's busier than a soldier in time of war. It might be interesting
to google "camp follower". Also, the very word "hooker" comes from
wartime prostitutes.
> Like so many dual income professional couples, most nights nothing
> happens.
How about young professional singles just starting out in life?
> Pragmatism says not much is going to happen.
I think we all know which side wins in any contest between pragmatism
and sex! [hint: we're still here] Nah, I think there is going to be
plenty of sex in space, I just hope that we are more... well,
pragmatic about it (birth control and prophalactics are manufactured
for a *reason,* kids!).
Xenophile (who also suggests googling on brothel and nevada)
# 19922 byThor Olson on June 21, 2004, 12:09 a.m.
Member since 2022-08-22
Thanks for your comments. This group was getting a
little dull without a morality discussion :)
threatening and expensive (in today's US dollars under
100K per person), I don't expect there to be more than
a couple of hundred astronauts in space at any one
time. Given the speculative nature of a lot of
developments I throw out the estimate of the next 100
years for this to change.
So in short you are likely to be right 2100+ and
beyond when the population breaks say 10,000 people in
one spot. Then all the accutriments of civilization
should be needed including the legit and
semi-non-unlegit?
2) The frontier towns were full of farmers who had a
really vivid view of how offspring were made. Now
there are careers, television, daycare, and frozen
entrees. Most of the professional's I know talk about
their vacations as if that is the place they are
romatic. Comparisons even as far back as 1950 leave a
lot to be desired. In my short lifespan the world is
quite a different place.
Ah yes, old Fighting Joe Hooker and his attachment of
ladies to the baggage train to cheer up the troops. I
would guess fighting a war encourages all sorts of hot
blooded activites. Being shot at, I hear improves the
circulation. I have a great deal of sympathy for
those in combat. Space is a very different
undertaking - would you not agree?
Cheers, Thor
PS. 100K sex starved young professionals in space
would be something to look forward to eh? Some
problems are a healthy sign.
> My thought is you would be lucky to have so many
> people with the time and energy to engage in sex at
> all. Until you have a sizeable population,
everybody
> is - well - living in tight spaces. Would anybody
How big is "sizable?" 10,000? 250,000? A million?
> want to risk infidelity or strained relations over
> jealousy.
People do. Every day. And how about the people who
are not married, engaged, or in long-term (though
non-marital) relationships? No infidelity there, nor
any need for jealosy.
> I may come off as a moralist in thinking this way.
> Still there has been a steady drop in activity
(sperm
> counts included) that is not easily explained. If
it
> is part of the highly competitive modern world then
> space dwellers are going to be hard at work building
> a future and not dating each other.
Perhaps, though it would contradict the entire history
of the human race. Look at the history of fronteir
towns, and you will see people hard at work building a
future... and having sex. Sometimes married sex,
sometimes adulterous sex, sometimes casual or
professional sex. Who's busier than a soldier in time
of war. It might be interesting to google "camp
follower". Also, the very word "hooker" comes from
wartime prostitutes.
> Like so many dual income professional couples, most
> nights nothing happens.
How about young professional singles just starting out
in life?
> Pragmatism says not much is going to happen.
I think we all know which side wins in any contest
between pragmatism and sex! [hint: we're still here]
Nah, I think there is going to be plenty of sex in
space, I just hope that we are more... well, pragmatic
about it (birth control and prophalactics are
manufactured for a *reason,* kids!).
Xenophile (who also suggests googling on brothel and nevada)