The futuof humanity (in space)? Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: The futuof humanity (in space)?
# 13793 bysraj99@... on May 19, 2017, 3:45 a.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
Elon Musk does not appear to share this view point. Indeed the threat from
AI (even in its present diluted form) is not distant, in the immediate
future there is going to be huge loss of jobs, even as computers and robots
take over and humans are left twiddling their fingers.
Regards,
Selvaraj
...
Indeed, Musk believes that the concerns raised by the growth of robot
intelligence as a trendsetter is best addressed by artificial intelligence
itself. He wants us to push boundaries, but with caution. Satiate our
curiosity, but without consequence. In fact, just earlier this year, Elon
Musk, along with Stephen Hawking and 20,000 other experts, signed an open
letter
cautioning
against the use of machine learning in warfare, warning that an artificial
intelligence arms race could be just as mutually destructive as a nuclear
one. The purpose of this letter was to protest against the development of
autonomous weapons in warfare, which could prove more dangerous than any
other form of weaponry, chemical, biological, nuclear or otherwise, known
to man.
The proposed idea of a neural network connecting human beings to the
internet is indeed an interesting one. As an organization that helps
inventors reach out to companies each day, we are very happy to see Silicon
Valley come up with something so futuristic and mind-bending. - Nicole
Lininger, InventHelp
Musk has tried his luck with more than just one potential solution for the
AI apocalypse, but none have been as hair-raising as his most recent
endeavor, which is an attempt to merge human intelligence with its
artificial counterpart in an effort to create the perfect brain, one that
can outsmart both humans and robots, without causing humans to lose
relevance.
Electroencephalography is a
technology as old as the 1970s, one with roots dug deep into medicine and
bioscience. It is the means by which brain waves recorded via sensors
placed on the scalp are used to control and operate machinery. The
technology has so far been used with great success in allowing patients
with full body paralysis to communicate yes-or-no responses using a brain
computer interface, as well as those with disabilities to control augmented
limbs simply with the power of their mind.
In theory, the idea of merging with machines is a way to ensure the
continuance of our consciousness, probably at the risk of leaving behind
the biological trappings of our species as it is today. The biggest
question around this will be about timelines - in the course of dozens of
interviews, we are yet to meet any neuroscientists who have openly or
enthusiastically pursued the concept of enhancement. As of today,
researchers in the field are concerned mostly with helping the paralyzed,
the blind and the disabled. Whether the field wakes up and unites in an
effort to bring enhancement to light in the coming 15 years or so... that's
a question I can't yet answer, but that sea of change will have to involve
more voices and efforts than those of Musk and Bryan Johnson alone. - Daniel
Faggella, TechEmergence
And now, Elon Musk wants to apply a highly advanced version of the same
technology to develop a whole-brain interface
that augments directly into the brain and enhances the perceptive powers of
the brain using artificial intelligence. His new startup, known simply as
Neuralink, aims at creating a link between the human brain and the
internet, one that allows it to control lifeless objects as well as
communicate with other human beings with nothing but thought waves. The
technology will work by implanting neural laces into the brain itself,
allowing it to communicate directly via thought waves, instead of the more
primitive approach of speech or writing.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/haroldstark/2017/05/17/elon-
musk-and-artificial-intelligence-share-a-tumultuous-relationship/#
73c2a2ed7d83
On 15 May 2017 at 22:53, Lucio de Souza Coelho lucioc@...
[spacesettlers] wrote:
>
> I think that artificial general intelligence is still a long way out. The
> things debated in the article (chess-playing AIs, cardriving AIs, etc) are
> as usual specific applications automating this or that task. And even
> though if AGI comes to reality we have no evidence that it will be either
> sentient or hostile - they could well be like the standard Star Trek
> computers (very intelligent but obviously not sentient) or Asimovean robots
> (intelligent, sentient, but with hardware limitations that keep them
> benevolent).
>
> It we come to either of the two later scenarios, then AGI will *help*
> humans to colonize space, instead of taking it from us.
>
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:29 AM, sraj sraj99@... [spacesettlers] <
> spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The enclosed link suggests that AI could rapidly progress to an extent
>> where Computers/Robots could become sentient. I had not believed that this
>> would be possible.
>>
>> Does this not dramatically alter the future of humanity? (Is there a
>> future?)
>>
>> Sentient Robots could sow intelligence in the universe orders of
>> magnitude faster than humans could! Is this theme covered in SF?
>>
>> Ref
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Selvaraj
>>
>>
>
It is disturbing that SF has not been able to anticipate this development.
Regards,
Selvaraj
...
Indeed, Musk believes that the concerns raised by the growth of robot intelligence as a trendsetter is best addressed by artificial intelligence itself. He wants us to push boundaries, but with caution. Satiate our curiosity, but without consequence. In fact, just earlier this year, Elon Musk, along with Stephen Hawking and 20,000 other experts,
signed an open letter
cautioning against the use of machine learning in warfare, warning that an artificial intelligence arms race could be just as mutually destructive as a nuclear one. The purpose of this letter was to protest against the development of autonomous weapons in warfare, which could prove more dangerous than any other form of weaponry, chemical, biological, nuclear or otherwise, known to man.
The proposed idea of a neural network connecting human beings to the internet is indeed an interesting one. As an organization that helps inventors reach out to companies each day, we are very happy to see Silicon Valley come up with something so futuristic and mind-bending. - Nicole Lininger,
InventHelp
Musk has tried his luck with more than just one potential solution for the AI apocalypse, but none have been as hair-raising as his most recent endeavor, which is an attempt to merge human intelligence with its artificial counterpart in an effort to create the perfect brain, one that can outsmart both humans and robots, without causing humans to lose relevance.
Electroencephalography
is a technology as old as the 1970s, one with roots dug deep into medicine and bioscience. It is the means by which brain waves recorded via sensors placed on the scalp are used to control and operate machinery. The technology has so far been used with great success in allowing patients with full body paralysis to communicate yes-or-no responses using a brain computer interface, as well as those with disabilities to control augmented limbs simply with the power of their mind.
In theory, the idea of merging with machines is a way to ensure the continuance of our consciousness, probably at the risk of leaving behind the biological trappings of our species as it is today. The biggest question around this will be about timelines - in the course of dozens of interviews, we are yet to meet any neuroscientists who have openly or enthusiastically pursued the concept of enhancement. As of today, researchers in the field are concerned mostly with helping the paralyzed, the blind and the disabled. Whether the field wakes up and unites in an effort to bring enhancement to light in the coming 15 years or so... that's a question I can't yet answer, but that sea of change will have to involve more voices and efforts than those of Musk and Bryan Johnson alone.
-Daniel Faggella,
TechEmergence
And now, Elon Musk wants to apply a highly advanced version of the same technology to develop a
whole-brain interface
that augments directly into the brain and enhances the perceptive powers of the brain using artificial intelligence. His new startup, known simply as Neuralink, aims at creating a link between the human brain and the internet, one that allows it to control lifeless objects as well as communicate with other human beings with nothing but thought waves. The technology will work by implanting neural laces into the brain itself, allowing it to communicate directly via thought waves, instead of the more primitive approach of speech or writing.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/
haroldstark/2017/05/17/elon-
musk-and-artificial-
intelligence-share-a-
tumultuous-relationship/#
73c2a2ed7d83
On 15 May 2017 at 22:53, Lucio de Souza Coelho
lucioc@...
[spacesettlers]
<
spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
>
I think that artificial general intelligence is still a long way out. The things debated in the article (chess-playing AIs, cardriving AIs, etc) are as usual specific applications automating this or that task. And even though if AGI comes to reality we have no evidence that it will be either sentient or hostile - they could well be like the standard Star Trek computers (very intelligent but obviously not sentient) or Asimovean robots (intelligent, sentient, but with hardware limitations that keep them benevolent).
It we come to either of the two later scenarios, then AGI will *help* humans to colonize space, instead of taking it from us.
On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:29 AM, sraj
sraj99@...
[spacesettlers]
<
spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
>
The enclosed link suggests that AI could rapidly progress to an extent where Computers/Robots could become sentient. I had not believed that this would be possible.
Does this not dramatically alter the future of humanity? (Is there a future?)
Sentient Robots could sow intelligence in the universe orders of magnitude faster than humans could! Is this theme covered in SF?
Ref
Regards,
Selvaraj