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Hi Rick,

It isn't so much what the guy was doing but the way he was going about
it that got my goat. I have nothing but praise for the American space
programme. Indeed, I wish very much that our government over here in UK
was a tiny fraction as adventurous as yours is and always has been.
Space Settlers here in UK is actively trying to change this and get our
lot doing more, but when a large US web site goes out of its way to
destroy a small site of ours that was doing nobody any harm, and when
some time later, at the Settlers AGM, I go out of my way to tell our
members to join Dr Omni's space settlers; web site, then come home and
find a guy apparently touting in favour of the very group who we believe
destroyed that site, I got popping mad. Sorry guys!

Best wishes, Andy.

Rick Fischer wrote:

> Well said Sir. The only part of this I do disagree with is that
> Americans landed Apollo 11 on the moon, with American taxpayer
> dollars. I wonder how there could be any anti-American sentiment in
> this case given this fact. After all, this discussion about this
> particular date would not be an issue if two Americans did not land on
> the moon in July 1969. (notice the date omission).Regards,Rick Fischer
>
> rfischer@... KSC
> http://www.insideksc.com
>
> From: Andy Nimmo [mailto:andy-nimmo@...]
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 8:33 PM
> To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:
>
> Hi Dr Stevens,
>
> I regret that I haven't seen any endorsement by Space
> Settlers of the
> day you are trying to promote, though I do agree that some
> celebration
> of Neil Armstrong's first step is something humanity should
> support.
>
> However I followed your link direct to another as a result
> of which I
> had no alternative but to e-mail their president to point
> out that the
> Yahoo group they were promoting as number one, the Orion
> Project, has
> got there, as largest Yahoo space group, by fighting tooth
> and nail to
> wreck every group that gained numbers by excellence and
> thereby
> threatened them, and has succeeded by hacking into them and
> destroying
> them. Further, a group called,'International Understanding'
> was at the
> bottom of their list.
>
> The date you choose, the 20th, was not the date when Neil
> Armstrong
> first stepped on the Moon in most places outside the
> Americas -
> including Scotland, the country from whence his ancestors
> came. In
> Scotland, if I recall correctly, because of time
> differences, he took
> that first step on the 21st. It seems therefore that true
> international understanding is not really something you
> seek.
>
> If I am wrong, and you really are sincere, may I suggest you
> get in
> touch, and perhaps with other groups and societies around
> planet
> Earth, we can mutually agree on a date for celebration of
> this event?
> This would quite possibly be the 20th, but it should be
> agreed
> mutually, not dumped upon us willy nilly whether we like it
> or not.
> That kind of behaviour only results in anti-Americanism
> planet-wide!
>
> I am just an ordinary member of this group, but this group
> though
> relatively small, is an internet group and thereby does have
> members
> in many countries. Everybody on the internet isn't
> necessarily
> American.
>
> Your very sincerely,
>
> Andy Nimmo (President, the UK Space Settlers' Society - who
> have
> celebrated our 21st birthday last week).
>
> --- In spacesettlers@y..., spartanbrotherhood@y... wrote:
> > Dear Space Settler Member:
> >
> > I am grateful and honored that Space Settlers has
> > officially endorsed Space Exploration Day, founded
> > in 1970 and celebrated on July 20th.
> >
> > You can individually support the day in two ways:
> >
> > First, by joining the Space Exploration Day
> > Yahoo Group at
> >
> > and second, by asking any other groups to which
> > you belong to endorse the day and to notify me
> > of that fact and the day on which the endorsement
> > took place at YRSpartan@a...
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your support!
> >
> > Dr. Tom Stevens
> > Founder
> > Space Exploration Day
>
> Service.
>

It isn't so much what the guy was doing but the way he was going aboutit that got my goat. I have nothing but praise for the American space programme.Indeed, I wish very much that our government over here in UK was a tinyfraction as adventurous as yours is and always has been. Space Settlershere in UK is actively trying to change this and get our lot doing more,but when a large US web site goes out of its way to destroy a small siteof ours that was doing nobody any harm, and when some time later, at theSettlers AGM, I go out of my way to tell our members to join Dr Omni'sspace settlers; web site, then come home and find a guy apparently toutingin favour of the very group who we believe destroyed that site, I got poppingmad. Sorry guys!
Best wishes, Andy.
Rick Fischer wrote:

Wellsaid Sir. The only part of this I do disagree with is that Americans landedApollo 11 on the moon, with American taxpayer dollars. I wonder how therecould be any anti-American sentiment in this case given this fact. Afterall, this discussion about this particular date would not be an issue iftwo Americans did not land on the moon in July 1969. (notice the date omission).
Regards,
RickFischer
rfischer@...
InsideKSC
http://www.insideksc.com

From:
Andy Nimmo [
mailto:andy-nimmo@...
]
Sent:
Sunday, July 08, 20018:33 PM
To:
spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Subject:

Hi Dr Stevens,
I regret that I haven't seen any endorsement by Space Settlers ofthe
day you are trying to promote, though I do agree that some celebration
of Neil Armstrong's first step is something humanity should support.
However I followed your link direct to another as a result of whichI
had no alternative but to e-mail their president to point out thatthe
Yahoo group they were promoting as number one, the Orion Project,has
got there, as largest Yahoo space group, by fighting tooth andnail to
wreck every group that gained numbers by excellence and thereby
threatened them, and has succeeded by hacking into them and destroying
them. Further, a group called,'International Understanding' wasat the
bottom of their list.
The date you choose, the 20th, was not the date when Neil Armstrong
first stepped on the Moon in most places outside the Americas -
including Scotland, the country from whence his ancestors came.In
Scotland, if I recall correctly, because of time differences, hetook
that first step on the 21st. It seems therefore that true
international understanding is not really something you seek.
If I am wrong, and you really are sincere, may I suggest you getin
touch, and perhaps with other groups and societies around planet
Earth, we can mutually agree on a date for celebration of thisevent?
This would quite possibly be the 20th, but it should be agreed
mutually, not dumped upon us willy nilly whether we like it ornot.
That kind of behaviour only results in anti-Americanism planet-wide!
I am just an ordinary member of this group, but this group though
relatively small, is an internet group and thereby does have members
in many countries. Everybody on the internet isn't necessarily
American.
Your very sincerely,
Andy Nimmo (President, the UK Space Settlers' Society - who have
celebrated our 21st birthday last week).

--- In spacesettlers@y..., spartanbrotherhood@y... wrote:
> Dear Space Settler Member:
>
> I am grateful and honored that Space Settlers has
> officially endorsed Space Exploration Day, founded
> in 1970 and celebrated on July 20th.
>
> You can individually support the day in two ways:
>
> First, by joining the Space Exploration Day
> Yahoo Group at
>
> and second, by asking any other groups to which
> you belong to endorse the day and to notify me
> of that fact and the day on which the endorsement
> took place at YRSpartan@a...
>
> Thanks in advance for your support!
>
> Dr. Tom Stevens
> Founder
> Space Exploration Day

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