SSI Activity (and its rebirth?)

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Thread: SSI Activity (and its rebirth?)

# 20054 byPaul D. Fernhout on Aug. 12, 2004, 8:12 p.m.
Member since 2022-08-22

> [Lost of insightful stuff, includign "The big difference between our
thought processes and those of the Mars advocates is that they are
expecting their efforts to come about through government subsidization.
... We High Frontier thinkers tend to assume that our efforts will be
funded by investors expecting a profit."].

Mike-

Fantastic and insightful comments on the politics of High Frontier
approach vs. Mars Approach. Thanks for sharing them. Your summary of how
those funding expectations lead to locations gave me a real sense of the
underlying divide of the two camps which clears some stuff up for me.

Still, I'd point out I'm trying to shift High Frontier thinking away
from capitalism dogma and more in line with "End Work" thinking. :-) See
for example:
http://www.deoxy.org/endwork.htm
"Liberals say we should end employment discrimination. I say we should
end employment. Conservatives support right-to-work laws. Following Karl
Marx's wayward son-in-law Paul Lafargue I support the right to be lazy.
Leftists favor full employment. Like the surrealistsexcept that I'm not
kiddingI favor full unemployment. Trotskyists agitate for permanent
revolution. I agitate for permanent revelry. But if all the ideologues
(as they do) advocate workand not only because they plan to make other
people do theirsthey are strangely reluctant to say so. They will carry
on endlessly about wages, hours, working conditions, exploitation,
productivity, profitability. They'll gladly talk about anything but work
itself. These experts who offer to do our thinking for us rarely share
their conclusions about work, for all its saliency in the lives of all
of us. Among themselves they quibble over the details. Unions and
management agree that we ought to sell the time of our lives in exchange
for survival, although they haggle over the price. Marxists think we
should be bossed by bureaucrats. Libertarians think we should be bossed
by businessmen. Feminists don't care which form bossing takes so long as
the bosses are women. Clearly these ideology-mongers have serious
differences over how to divvy up the spoils of power. Just as clearly,
none of them have any objection to power as such and all of them want to
keep us working." [And he goes on to say in general terms how that can
be arranged, even without space settlements and automation.]

Another perspective on that ideal is:
http://www.schumachersociety.org/buddhisteconomics.html

--Paul Fernhout