Futuof Space Colonization (And why do we always keep going into politics and economics?) Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: Futuof Space Colonization (And why do we always keep going into politics and economics?)
# 2904 byaglobus@... on May 30, 2002, 3:30 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
People often claim that democratic governments cannot sustain long term
commitments. However, the data doesn't support that. The U.S. and it's
democratic allies (along with some dictatorial allies) maintained a
successful 40 year cold against the Soviet Union. The U.S. also
maintained a century long policy of westward conquest ending with the
political unification of much of North America.
except for the other ones.
On Wednesday, May 29, 2002, at 05:34 PM, Ravenart@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/29/02 6:50:32 PM, omni@... writes:
>
> << Governments have trouble looking
>
> past the
>
>> next election so we'd have some problems.
>
>>
>
> Only democratic governments. In China, for instance, I would guess that
> the
>
> policy for the ongoing space program will last as much as the current
>
> leadership of the country - and that duration is not limited by
> elections. >>
>
> That is right. There is a new book called Democracy: The God that
> Failed by
> a political economist Hans Hermann Hoppe in which he compared the
> democracy
> and kingship. The author is a free market anarchist-paleoconservative
> from
> Germany, so he dosn't support any of them. I hasn't read it but I has
> followed the discussion via book review. Beyond is a review by a
> paleoconservative. For the record, I am individualist and free market
> anarchist.
>
> ===============
> No-Think Nation VI: Destroying the West with Political Correctness
> By Paul Craig Roberts
> (http://www.vdare.com/roberts/no_think6.htm)
>
> Does democracy undermine a countrys future by shortening the
> time-preference
> of rulers? Does racial diversity produce conflict? Are Americas two
> greatest strengths in fact the countrys two greatest weaknesses?
>
> In an important new book, Democracy: The God That Failed political
> economist
> Hans Hermann Hoppe makes the case that democracy causes rulers to use
> policy
> for their short-term gains at the expense of the long-term welfare of
> the
> country.
>
> A king or hereditary line of rulers has a long-term view, because he
> and his
> heirs have a proprietary interest in the country. Although all kings
> will not
> be well-informed or in possession of good judgment, their proprietary
> interest causes hereditary rulers to pay attention to the repercussions
> of
> their actions on the economic, social and cultural strength of their
> country.
>
> A democracy, on the other hand, is ruled by temporary and
> interchangeable
> caretakers, who have no proprietary interest in the country. Their
> ability to
> exploit the country to their advantage is limited to their uncertain
> term of
> office. The results are shortsighted or present-oriented policies, which
> benefit the office holder at the long-term expense of the country.
>
> The longer democracy exists, the more damage will be done to law,
> property,
> culture, family, and moral values by the musical chair system of
> rotating
> rulers guided by short-term interest. As redistribution expands, the
> incentive for businessmen, judges, and consumers to take a long-term
> view is
> systematically reduced. Business time horizons shrink to three months,
> saving
> rates fall and debt levels rise as shortsighted rule reduces government
> to
> income and wealth confiscation.
>
> The prevailing incentive for citizens becomes to over-consume income
> and to
> be a net debtor, as wealth is targeted for exploitation both by
> government
> and lawyers.
> Not a cheerful analysis. Before dismissing it, sit back and make your
> list of
> government policies that take a long-term view to actually promote the
> general welfare. In the past 102 years, only two come readily to mind:
> President Reagans supply-side policy, which cured stagflation by
> overthrowing Keynesian short-term demand management, and President
> Reagans
> decision to abandon containment and actively work to hasten the fall
> of
> the Soviet Union.
>
> An honest look at democracys great victories shows them to be
> unmitigated
> disasters. The Civil Rights Act destroyed freedom of conscience,
> voluntary
> association, and equality in law, replacing it with status-based
> privileges
> from the feudal past. Busing and federal aid destroyed public
> education. The
> Great Society spending programs eroded family and encouraged public
> dependency.
> The New Deal destroyed accountable law by forcing Congress to delegate
> lawmaking power to unelected federal bureaucrats. The Social Security
> Act
> substituted an intergenerational Ponzi scheme, which is entirely
> dependent on
> favorable demographics, for individual saving. The Federal Reserve Act
> gave us
> the Great Depression. American entry into W.W.I, which was to make the
> world
> safe for democracy, resulted in Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, and Mao.
>
> Yet, all these disastrous policies greatly benefited the politicians who
> inflicted them.
> When democracy is mixed with racial and cultural diversity, the
> combination
> of short time horizons with internal conflict maximizes weakness,
> regardless
> of accumulated scientific and technological skills.
>
> In another important recent book, Conflicts Explained by Ethnic
> Nepotism,
> Scandinavian scholar Tatu Vanhanen argues that group conflict is
> biologically
> or racially based.
>
> Professor Vanhanen constructs an Index of Ethnic Heterogeneity, [RTF] a
> measure of ethnic, tribal, racial, linguistic and religious diversity,
> for
> every country in the world with a population larger than one million.
> He then
> constructs an Index of Ethnic Conflict [RTF] and finds a strong
> correlation
> between the scores of the two indexes.
> In our world of politically correct scholarship, it is almost
> obligatory for
> sociologists to assume that the source of conflict is oppression or
> injustice. Prof. Vanhanen dismisses these explanations as worn-out
> Marxist propaganda.
>
> Conflict, he concludes, comes from ethnic nepotism. It is natural to
> the
> human species to favor relatives over people who are unrelated to us.
> Extending this principle, people care more for those genetically
> related to
> them than for others. Of all chasms that separate people, race is the
> hardest
> to bridge.
>
> Multiracial or multitribal states break up, because assimilation across
> racial boundaries is rare.
>
> The only solution to the conflict is secession and separation.
>
> Professor Vanhanen notes that the belief that racial diversity is a
> strength
> is limited to Western European countries, the U.S. and Canada. The
> belief is
> so obviously at odds with the experience of the rest of the world that
> only
> people brainwashed by political correctness can believe it.
>
> By infusing themselves with massive racial diversity, the countries of
> the
> West are ceasing to be nation-states and are planting seeds of future
> conflict without precedent in world history.
>
> Nonthinking civilizations are doomed. The weakness of Western
> intellectual
> thought is apparent when the entire edifice can be challenged by two
> books.
> Is the West too politically correct to free itself from the black hole
> of
> No-Think?
>
> Paul Craig Roberts is the author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions : How
> Prosecutors and Bureaucrats Are Trampling the Constitution in the Name
> of
> Justice.
> COPYRIGHT 2001 CREATORS SYNDICATE, INC.
> May 28, 2002
>
> ===============
>
> Carl E. Mullin
> visionary artist and entrepreneur
> homo asteralis
> ravenart@...m
> www.ravenartstudio.com
> "Question with boldness even the existence of God; because if there be
> one,
> He must approve the homage of Reason rather than that of blindfolded
> Fear."
> ----Thomas Jefferson
>
The materials in one asteroid (the largest ) are sufficient to make
orbital space colonies with ~500 times the surface area of the Earth in
usable real estate. See http://lifesci3.arc.nasa.gov/SpaceSettlement/
for details.
Al Globus
CSC at NASA Ames Research Center
http://www.nas.nasa.gov/~globus/home.html