Transportation within a habitiat

Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: Transportation within a habitiat

# 3058 bypanamabob@... on July 9, 2002, 3 a.m.
Member since 2021-10-03

Thread :
>monitering devices on people and healthy food,

> Do you really want to have regular monitering devices on people? Sounds
kind
> of 1984 to me.

Hey were in 2002, 1984 never happened :-) Actually these devices are
already in use. Many people also have medi-alert buttons on a neck chain
(Help Ive fallen and I cant get up!) There are companies that will implant
subdermal locators, supposedly to dissuade kidnappers. Besides, we can
pretty much assume much of todays potential for ultra privacy to be long
gone... unless you somehow sneak aboard , you will have been looked over
countless times. If your born, its such a relatively small community that a
number of people will know you were pregnant and will wonder what happened
when there is no sign of the child (miscarraige?) Try getting away with
ANYTHING in a small town and you realize the gossiping neighbors are far
more intuitive than any 1984 bogeyman could be.

Besides , it can be a voluntary thing as part of health maintennace...what
person stepping off the treadmill breathless would not go to see what was
wrong? It could also be a personal monitering device that pages your family
members first for a quick decission to call in additional help or not. Cut
your hand off in the cuisinart? You or your family would gather it up in a
ice bag and walk you to the nearest transport station. Even today, you
pretty much walk into the emergency room from your car...

> Yes, but these things can also be caused by other things which aren't so
> dangerous.

Yes but you would have been notified that something was wrong and to take
adecuate precautions. You get in your car and you notice the tire is
low...doesnt mean you dont drive, or call the autoclub, or change the
tire... it just means that your first stop is to an airpump :-) Same with
moniters. Perhaps your CO2 level is high because you didnt sleep well due to
a bad sneezing bout....you would still check it out for what ever gave you
the warning notice. After checking you can decide to ignore (stupid) or take
further action.

>quicker to get medical trained personal to you and
> > stabilize rather than trying to wisk you away to an emergency center...

> Bad idea. The value of paramedics is that they can keep you alive for the
trip
> to the hospital where your life actually is saved.

I think we are saying the same thing here... the segway transporter is
akin to a guerney to take you from the accident site to transport system
If you are in a high rise condo, out in the country, or other place not
presently ON a highway, there is going to be an intermediary step. A segway
type device rolling at 15-20 mph would cover a mile in around 4 minutes.
That could be the time from the upper flors of a apt building, domicile to
the transport station.

> > As far as furniture... what size are you talking? :-) Most homes have a
> > limit to furnishings controlled by the front door, usually not more than
> > 36-60 inches wide (double door) Furnishings will be limited by this
> > diminsions, either broken down to fit, or assembled indoors from smaller
> > components. Again these sizes can be easily carried by smaller motorized
> > carts that can navigate walking paths.
>
> With prefab housing I could imagine removing a couple of the wall panels
to
> make a bit of extra room to allow furniture to enter. But mostly you are
> correct about the size limits.
>
> > Segway type vehicles ( the gyroscoped steadied personal two wheeled
thingy
> > you have seen touted on several TV shows and being considereed by the
postal
> > service) can also take a chunk out of your worries.
>
> They may be a possibility for short range travel. But in large habitats I
> think you'll have a bit of trouble getting rid of cars. Particulary if
the
> habitats have rain.
>

> Also what will we use in the sprinkler systems? Water?

How about nitrogen? generally its a heavier gas and would have a tendency to
lie close to the ground, where most fires are based. A quick blast of
nitrogen would squelch the fire poste haste. Most people can survive a
minute or two without air, a fire is immidiately sufficated ; no length of
time required at all. Electrical, or whatever is killed. Ofcourse ground
fault interiupters would diffuse the origin in most cases.

Then we need to think this out again and not take along our "baggage".
Lights would all be fibre optic, either from a central light source or from
"outdoors" focused in side. No light bulbs, elimantes most electrical
wiring, no heat generated, nothing to knock over or bulbs to burn out either
:-)

Micro chips in your smart house would be doing constant diagnostics on
electroonic equipment and warn of impending failure (zounds of Hal 2000) .
Disgruntled engineeers could have you replacing components that are perfect
just to drum up more buisness :-)

TV and other entertainment screens will probably be projected hollogram 3-d
by then anyway as well.

That leaves kinky sex with hot wax from lighted candles I suppose. Dropping
a candle could potentially catch on clothes, etc. The nitrogen system then
comes into play again. Smart houses could evacuate the nitrogen after a few
seconds to ensure the home owners dont sufficate incase they are
unconscious.

The main thing to remember in all of this is that EVERYthing cant be
covered, and some people will just die. Shame but not possible to create a
complete UTOPIA... where there are humans, there will be exceptions to
perfection.

> Break it down into smaller items. I would see the construction equipment
to be
> more of the a problem then the materials.

What construction equipment? All the original work is done at pre
construction,,,no reason for heavy equipment (?) to go into an established
neighborhood to work. >