Asteroid use Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: Asteroid use
# 402 bydarren@... on Jan. 10, 2001, 1:20 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
"Clements, Robert" wrote:
> that it
> would have to actively repudiate its treaty requirements to support
> the
> nuttier Homesteading claims of groups like the SFF & ProSpace. The
> absence
> of any international support for such probusiness posturing was shown
> at
> last year's UNISPACE conference; where an attempt to get a probusiness
>
> communique from the conference was blocked en mass by everyone else...
> a
> foreshadowing of USAmerica's recent hatchet job at the Amsterdam
> climate
> conference.
>
> Given that our main goal is to develop space missions on a
> semicommercial
> basis & want to actually convince investors that we're thinking about
> profits over ideologies, we're ignoring all requests to claim this,
> that or
> the other asteroid as private property; & will restrict ourselves to
> claiming limited usage rights only (idiots at SFF conventions going
> NASA is
> the enemy may generate good wrestling style pops; but have real
> financiers
> quietly redlining their projects). Ultimately, though, the celestial
> body
> definition in the Outer Space Treaty is unworkable in a manner not
> mentioned
> by Darren.... technically, any miniscule fragment of space dust is a
> celestial body; which supposedly can't be claimed by anyone....
>
> There are a lot of lurks here which can be addressed with wit &
> subversion;
> but that's a different issue.
>
> All the best,
> Robert Clements
>
Robert,
>From what I've read they can pull out of the treaty by just giving a
years notice.
Article XVI
Any State Party to the Treaty may give notice of its withdrawal from the
Treaty one year after its entry into force by written notification to
the
Depositary Governments. Such withdrawal shall take effect one year from
the date of receipt of this notification.
Darren Brown
"Clements, Robert" wrote:
USAmerica is a signatory to the Outer Space Treaty;which would mean that it
would have to actively repudiate its treaty requirements to supportthe
nuttier Homesteading claims of groups like the SFF & ProSpace.The absence
of any international support for such probusiness posturing wasshown at
last year's UNISPACE conference; where an attempt to get a probusiness
communique from the conference was blocked en mass by everyoneelse... a
foreshadowing of USAmerica's recent hatchet job at the Amsterdamclimate
conference.
Given that our main goal is to develop space missions on a semicommercial
basis & want to actually convince investors that we're thinkingabout
profits over ideologies, we're ignoring all requests to claim this,that or
the other asteroid as private property; & will restrict ourselvesto
claiming limited usage rights only (idiots at SFF conventions goingNASA is
the enemy may generate good wrestling style pops; but have realfinanciers
quietly redlining their projects). Ultimately, though, the celestialbody
definition in the Outer Space Treaty is unworkable in a mannernot mentioned
by Darren.... technically, any miniscule fragment of space dustis a
celestial body; which supposedly can't be claimed by anyone....
There are a lot of lurks here which can be addressed with wit &subversion;
but that's a different issue.
All the best,
Robert Clements
Robert,
From what I've read they can pull out of the treaty by just giving ayears notice.
Article XVI
Any State Party to the Treaty may give notice of its withdrawal fromthe
Treaty one year after its entry into force by written notificationto the
Depositary Governments. Such withdrawal shall take effect one yearfrom
the date of receipt of this notification.
Darren Brown