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Forum: Spacesettlers
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# 5221 bysraj@... on March 22, 2004, 3:29 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03

Sci-fi books have frequently got it right while Scientist and Engineers frequently get it wrong - remember the heavier than air vehicles which would not fly! Even Leonardo thought they would fly! Look at the books written by Jules Vern.

Selvaraj.

P.S. Came across an interesting tid bit. Jules Vern's books were a deliberate collaboration with his Publisher (who pushed whom?)to bring to life the 'existing' knowledge in science. Perhaps some potboilers which focus on the initial phases of space exploration would be timely. Does NASA spend any money on this? Sponsor competitions on Space Fiction?

From: Valens Agnitio
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: [spacesettlers] Re: making money on asteroids

Why do people reference sci-fi books or movies as proof of concepts, ideas,
or pre-conceptions?

Val

>From: "Karell Ste-Marie"
>Reply-To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
>To:
>Subject: RE: [spacesettlers] Re: making money on asteroids
>Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 13:33:43 -0500
>
>Ed,
>
>Take out the movie "Moon 44"; you will see how human nature can work in
>space. You can also see what measures companies that mine in space have
>to take in order to even protect a moon-sized human (on site) controlled
>operation (involving very few people and mostly robots).
>
>You will see that some companies are forced to hire very bad people to
>just protect an installation.
>
>Karell Ste-Marie
>C.I.O. - BrainBank Inc.
>
>From: Ed Minchau [mailto:spider_boris@...]
>Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 12:08 PM
>To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [spacesettlers] Re: making money on asteroids
>
>--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" wrote:
>
> >
> > What happens if two different registries grant rights to the same
> > portion of luner area to two different people. This is exactly what
> > caused the American-Mexican war in 1948. The U.S was deeding
> > properties to settlers that the Mexican government had deeded to
> > different settlers years earlier, and they both showed up at the
>same
> > time with guns blazing.
> >
> > Furthermore, how are property rights going to be enforced.
>
> > assuming that a person has dropped a teleoperated
> > system on an asteroid and is mining, and my system drops in half a
> > year later and the first thing it does is turn your system off. I
>know
> > have possession of the asteroid, but does the 9/10 ths rule apply
>now?
>
>That's the other 1/10 of the law.
>
>Obviously, if company X, which started mining some asteroid, cannot
>enforce its class B claim due to the actions of your robots, your
>class B claim would supersede theirs. Of course, they could send
>people and establish a class A claim, which trumps any class B
>(robotic) claim.
>
>Ed