How to fill a new Habitat? Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: How to fill a new Habitat?
# 5461 bypanamabob@... on July 12, 2004, 4:32 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
New space based Las Vegas or Miami as in vacation spots?, I don't think so. At least not with the numbers that we associate with both locations on Earth now. But maybe I'm wrong? Nice (France) and other high end vacation spots on the Riviera do ok with the jet setters and such. It never struck me as a volume business as Miami or Las vegas, but maybe there is a world wide base for it.
As more and more pressure is put to expats to pay tax regardless of where they are in the world, the bennefits of an offshore er, off Earth fiscal paradise location becomes attractive. Again, older folks are not into a LOT of cubic footage residents or need a lot of home for children etc like younger folks do. With a few common areas for concerts, socializing, the actual personal space could be quite small. This would make it more feasible from a developers standpoint. And since we are talking primarily older older retirees , ones that are too physically challenged to play golf (golf course) or go yachting (marina/waterfront) etc. those high cost ameneties are not needed.
Residensea and other similar ocean ship condo concepts have started up and seem successful so far for the wealthier niche. Perhaps the next step, ResidentSpace is viable?
From: omar vega
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [spacesettlers] Re: How to fill a new Habitat?
That's a very good idea. We have already discussed the
posibility of having a new "Las Vegas" and now, a new
"Miami". I think both scenarios are feasible and that
may be the way things will go.
I have some doubts, however with Solar Energy. Does
anybody knows if beaming high power from space to the
ground would have some environmental impact? Would SPS
became a new source of worries?
Omar Vega
--- panamabob wrote:
> Less body stress and therefor longer potential life
> span in Space...
>
> THAT is probably the best thought ever on what will
> populate Space... self preservation ands mortality
> is a STRONG motivator, and with the graying of the
> world, a serious consideration for many is life
> extension and quality of Life. It would NOT be
> industrial production or "workers" for the most
> part, (except for those servicing the older
> residents need, and only those needs that could not
> be done remotely by automation or robotics, so that
> the expertise stays primarily on Earth...(example
> being telemedical treatments, operations etc.
> instead of having actual human medical specialist in
> orbit). . A rich retiree cashing out of there
> investments onEarth is not so critical of the cost
> as a younger person would be, as long as they had
> all the comforts they desire...and the amount of
> cubic footage is also not as critical to a retiree,
> again as long as the space they DO have is extremely
> comfortable.
>
> In addfition, many of these older capitalist earn
> money from brain power and knowledge, bith of which
> are not location sensative as long as good
> communication systems are in place, which of course
> they would be in an orbital environment. They could
> adjust their lifestyle to the time zone of their
> preference not being tied into a specific locations
> sunrise or sunset.
>
> I do see energy production or rather energy
> redirection and repackaging into useable units for
> the population on Earth.This would be one area that
> Space has a competative advantage due to atmosphere
> cutting down solar energy and the rotation of the
> Earth limiting hours of operation.
>
> From: Richard
> To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 9:54 PM
> Subject: [spacesettlers] Re: How to fill a new
> Habitat?
>
> --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophile"
>
> wrote:
> > OK. Let's take the mortgage idea and run with
> it.
> >
> > 10,000 people... Make it 3,000 housholds of one
> to four people each
> > (maybe a five-person family or two in there,
> off-set by several
> > singles). So 3,000 home-owners. Each of them
> sells his/her/their
> > house and barrows 100,000 buckaroonies in the
> form 30-year mortgages.
> > If the houses are 150,000 bucks each, then each
> of these 3,000
> > investors is contributing a quarter-million
> dollars.
> >
> > 250,000 * 3,000 = $750,000,000
> >
> > Is this enough to finance an Island One? Well,
> it isn't enough to go
> > from "at last, it's starting to happen" to the
> first 10,000 folks
> > moving in, but after the first few are built?
> Or how about 3,000
> > multi-millionares each plucking down $10
> million? There are plenty of
> > multi-millionares who have spent $10 million on
> a home.
> >
> > For an Island Three, make it 100,000
> multi-miilionares.
> >
> >
> > Xenophile (not a multi-millionare, but has
> watched enough TV to know
> > the sort of moolah they throw around on homes
> and yachts and such)
>
> And how much more for a home where you would live
> years longer? There
> is a stronger possibility that under lower
> gravity, you would live longer.
>
> Your heart literally fights gravity all your life.
> My mother died
> because her heart gave out on her. I had a heart
> attack 6 weeks ago
> and have trouble walking.
>
> Like a fish in water, we take gravity forgranted.
>
> We might end up with a separate race of low
> gravity people that could
> never live on Earth again. But they might well
> think that they have
> the better of the exchange.
>
> The rich might live long lives in low gravity
> while the poor have a
> short, brutish existence deep with a gravity well.
>
> Rick Brooks
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