Asteroids Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: Asteroids
# 5579 bytodd@... on Aug. 6, 2004, 7:31 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
I also found your answer to be of high quality.
either enjoy or give you feedback on (obvioulsy your choice)...
I love scifi, and I've found a small smattering of short stories and such
that can be as good or better than a book...
Thanks,
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Penned by graham_toquer on Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 04:54:01AM -0000, we have:
| As an amateur science fiction writer myself, I would be honored. I'm
| trying to turn professional, and I have the rejection slips to
| prove. My father was on the cover on ANALOG three times, so I keep
| at it.
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| --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, omar vega wrote:
| > Graham:
| >
| > Your answer is so good that I would like to ask your
| > permission to send some amateur sci-fiction writers to
| > read. I will cite you, of course. I think they should
| > get inform.
| >
| > Omar Vega
| >
| > --- graham_toquer wrote:
| >
| > > There are reasons to go into space, but they're
| > > scattered all over
| > > the solar system. Rule of thumb seems to be that
| > > planets get denser
| > > as you get closer to the sun. That would seem to
| > > indicate that
| > > mercury will be a treasure house of heavy elements
| > > like gold,
| > > platinum, irridium, and so on. The moon has
| > > aluminum, silicon, and a
| > > type of soil that forms instant concrete for
| > > building space
| > > habitats. Water you can get from comets, as well as
| > > from Europa or
| > > the rings. Comets also have carbon. The asteroids
| > > have iron and
| > > nickel in abundance. Mars probably has a little of
| > > everything,
| > > including salts of various kinds. Mars and Venus,
| > > as well as Earth,
| > > both all have nitrogen, which is essential for
| > > setting up a working
| > > ecology.
| > >
| > > As for what there is that is worth making the trip -
| > > nothing. It's
| > > what we are going to build there that will make the
| > > trip worthwhile.
| > > In five hundred years, I expect to see a ring of
| > > space habitats
| > > orbiting the sun, each with the internal area of a
| > > small state, at
| > > least. The materials to build them are all
| > > available, it's just a
| > > matter of bringing it all together.
| > >
| > > What will eventually evolve for that purpose is Von
| > > Neumann
| > > technology, robots that use materials at hand to
| > > build more of
| > > themselves until there are enough of them for a
| > > really big
| > > engineering project.
| > >
| > > Once we have that, we can start sending off Von
| > > Neumann robots to
| > > neighboring star systems to convert nebular material
| > > into space
| > > habitats to await colonists. The robots to start
| > > the job might fit
| > > into a probe the size of a walnut. Additional
| > > programming
| > > instructions can be beamed to them as they
| > > reproduce, eventually
| > > concerting an entire stellar nebula into a home for
| > > man. Then we
| > > start beaming them information about DNA sequences,
| > > and they create
| > > the species needed to form viable ecologies. And if
| > > human settlers
| > > are slow in coming, then they create human settlers
| > > as well. (Anyone
| > > read Renzezvous with RAMA?)
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| > > --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, Justin
| > > wrote:
| > > > Three reasons I can think of off the top of my
| > > head:
| > > >
| > > > 1) For use in space settlements/factories so they
| > > won't have to pay
| > > to
| > > > get it shipped out of Earth's gravity well.
| > > >
| > > > 2) As a low impact (to Earth inhabitants)
| > > alternative to mining gold
| > > > here on Earth.
| > > >
| > > > 3) As a low-cost way to generate revenue once a
| > > mining
| > > infrastructure
| > > > has already been set up outside the gravity well.
| > > Once we're
| > > already
| > > > out there mining the stuff for our own use, I have
| > > no doubt we will
| > > > ship some of our spoils back planet-side for a
| > > happy profit both for
| > > > the miners and for the purchasers still on Earth.
| > > >
| > > > My question is why would we go all the way to Io
| > > for these
| > > resources?
| > > > Are there any resources floating around Jupiter
| > > that we can't find
| > > > closer to home in NEOs or at least the asteroid
| > > belt?
| > > >
| > > > Cheers,
| > > > --Justin
| > > >
| > > > From: Lucio de Souza Coelho
| > > >
| > > > However, I doubt that gold in Io would attract
| > > investment. Why
| > > bother
| > > > to go to Jupiter get it when you can mine tons of
| > > the stuff here on
| > > > Earth?
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