Overpopulation

--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, sraj wrote:
>
> terrierkeeper wrote:
>
> "Overpopulation is not deemed an excuse for moving into space at
this
> time." ....
>
> To say that there is no problem of overpopulation is to
collectively stick
> our heads in the sand. For your information the most over-populated
country
> in the world today is USA. With a population of just 300 million,
Americans
> use up 25% of the world's oil and, it is said, directly or
indirectly
> Americans consume 40% of the world's natural resources (I am not
clear how
> this figure is calculated).

i think you need to get your definition straight. the USA has 50 ppl
per square mile. china has a population of over 136 people per square
mile, almost three times as many. mexico is a little worse with 139
per square mile. France is almost as crowded at 110 per square mile.
Bangladesh comes in at a whooping 1000 ppl per square mile. i will
not argue the point (as it likely correct) that we Americans are
using more resources than we should, but we are not the ones that are
facing a problem with overpopulation. we just dont want to have one
either.

USA is having problems dealing with migrants
> from Mexico. The total population of Mexico is just 106 million, a
number
> which, if indeed there is no problem of population growth, could
easily be
> integrated in the USA economy.

the problem is not the numbers, its the fact that many come expecting
to have a better world and take jobs that Americans should be
getting. many of them are taking jobs at lower wage than Americans
thus keeping the wages down. they also don't pay taxes, yet take up
much of the medical, school, and others things given to the poor for
free. they also overwhelm the burocacy that is intended to keep out
ppl that would be highly detrimental to our society.

>
> Making matters worse, the American stranglehold over world media
and the
> world economic system ensures that this unsustainable American
lifestyle is
> exported around the world.
>
> The so called developed countries like USA and EU, have hardly any
wildlife
> left. To see wildlife you will have to go to the underdeveloped
countries.

obviously you are not an American, not live here. Ive seen many forms
of wildlife around the country, everything from pheasants on farms to
bears, wolves, and American buffoles in Yellowstone national park, a
place ppl come from around the world, including many of the
underdeveloped countries, to see these same wildlife.

>
> The proper population for our planet would be around 2 billion, the
number
> 100 years back. Max 3 billion. The current world population of 6,
617,481107
> and counting, which could peak at 12 billion (since all the smart
guys in
> town believe there is no population problem), does not recognize
the rights
> of other animals to exist.

considering that there are lots of places in the us set aside for
many of these creatures to live in without the intrusion of man, that
is not just America doing, actually less Americans doing that other
places. considering that china strives to increase its population,
and many countries that are more influenced by the catholic church
have no way of limiting their population. many of the underdevoloped
nations are having faster population increases than america, because
a large part of it, strives to keep the population growth down.
>
> Selvaraj
>
> P.S. But then, who am I to talk of people having their heads in the
sand.
> You type 'Population China' in Google Search you get an unambiguous
figure
> of 1,306,313,812. Pakistan - 162,419,946. Bangladesh 144,319,628.
India - no
> such figure pops up. It used to about six months back. No doubt our
> politicians and bureaucrats do not wish to cause unnecessary heart
attacks!
> : - ) or should it be : - (
>
when i typed in population of us, i had no trouble comeing up with
295,734,134, yet when i did china i got a much less figure of 1.306
billion. the biggest problem with getting an accurate figure for the
us is all the illegal migrants not reporting themselfs, for fear they
will be sent back to the places that they came from.