IMAX L5 First City In Spase.

> If nationalist prides had been in 1969 what they were like over
three
> hundred fifty years ago ...

Nationalism as we know it didn't really get going until the 1800s.
Before that there was still plenty for people to fight about --
religion, empire, and so on -- but nationalism, the ideology that
state and ethnicity should be closely linked, didn't exist to any
significant extent.

--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "terrierkeeper"
wrote:
>
> As a student of history I have learned that the great achievements
> have been brought more through competetion than cooperation.
>
> The petty differences which divide are often the source of
identity
> and motivation. Though one can argue that these things are the
soruce
> of instability perhaps it is that instability taht forces things
to
> get done.
>
> If nationalist prides had been in 1969 what they were like over
three
> hundred fifty years ago it is possible that man would have begun
the
> colonization process in space.
>
> --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Combs, Mike"

> wrote:
> >
> > From: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of terrierkeeper
> >
> > > Overall, I would say it was about as exciting and as
> > > informative as watching Grass Grow.
> >
> > I find it thrilling, but I suppose only because there aren't
really
> any
> > other High Frontier film productions (I wouldn't count Babylon
5)
> that I
> > could unfavorably compare it to. But I acknowledge many of the
> faults
> > you find.
> >
> > > Because of the cumbersomness of the technowlogy to produce
> > > it and limited length I won't fault it.
> >
> > Yes, that's an important consideration. Though IMAX movies
today
> can be
> > quite a bit longer, really none were being made longer than 40
> minutes
> > at that time.
> >
> > > Though I wish they had refrained from the futuristic cloths
> > > and used the money for more computor graphics.
> >
> > You have to consider the era. Computer graphics is moving so
> rapidly
> > that the state of the art from 1997 looks a bit lacking in
detail by
> > today's standards.
> >
> > > Having seen all the futuristic visions drawn of what a space
> > > island interior would look like that artists have produced
> > > since 1973, I wish the producers had bothered to spand some
> > > time with them.
> >
> > I agree. That one, brief glimpse of the torus interior just
wasn't
> > enough. Babylon 5 also shied away from providing many views of
that
> > large, green, cylindrical interior. I guess there's something
about
> > attempts to visualize these curving environments (especially with
> > people) that's considered very daunting to special effect
artists,
> for
> > some obscure reason.
> >
> > > The virtual reality chat room fel to me almost a cheapening
of
> the
> > film.
> >
> > If you've read my review, you know I agree.
> >
> > > Certainly I am quite dispointed with the ending since I do
> > > not see the space islands as gateways to space further out
> > > but as Man's Promised Land.
> >
> > Yes, for some reason there was a curious focus on colonizing
> the "outer
> > planets" (would that exclude Mars?). I'm not sure if that was
the
> > Japanese influence, or what.
> >
> > But at least they did depict the first habitat building the
second.
> > Anyone with a bit of savvy can realize that there's really
nothing
> to
> > stop that accelerating process.
> >
> > > Just as I am quite diapointed with the them of That World
> > > Cooperation can achieve this. Excuse me, since the nations
> > > of the world have lost competativeness, they have ahieved
> > > hardly anything when compared to the Leaps and Bounds
> > > achieved during the Space Race between America and the
> > > Soviet Union.
> >
> > Yes, the bit of narration you refer to sticks in my craw as well.
> > Competition isn't bad, competition is good. It's petty
squabbles
> over
> > religions and tribal distinctions which are bad for us.
> >
> > But we must remember that although this might be the slightly
more
> > intellectual corner of Hollywood we're talking about here, it's
> still
> > Hollywood.
> >
> > > Overall It's good for borrowing but I am sorry to say Mobile
Suit
> > > Gundam is better.
> >
> > I've given that a couple of tries, but find it a bit
impenetrable.