War in space Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: War in space
# 7294 bydsw_s@... on Jan. 12, 2006, 3:20 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
> Actually there's also longitudinal stress, 50% of the
circumferental
> stress, which is caused by air pressure on the end caps.
something more complicated, because the circumferential stress
depends on the g's whereas the longitudinal stress depends only on
the pressure.
> Well, you've reduced the load on the structure by more than the
size
> of the hole.
I still don't get it. How do those quantities even have the same
dimensions?
--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, Ian Woollard
wrote:
>
> On 1/10/06, Dan Wylie-Sears wrote:
> > > You've just reduced the main load- atmospheric loading at the
> > > breach point, so it might well survive in fact.
> >
> > The load on a sphere or cylinder is from the whole rest of the
> > structure.
>
> True, but you have a safety factor of maybe 2-4 on the whole
> structure, so punching a few smallish holes in the cylinder makes
> little difference.
>
> > It's simpler to visualize for a cylinder: the stress is
> > pure tension, all in the circumference direction,
>
> Actually there's also longitudinal stress, 50% of the
circumferental
> stress, which is caused by air pressure on the end caps.
>
> > and two strips
> > along opposite sides have to keep the two halves from going their
> > separate ways: they have to bear the component parallel to their
> > tangential direction, of centrifugal weight plus atmospheric
> > pressure of the two halves. The outward force acting at that
point
> > is perpendicular: varying the amount of mass or air pressure
there
> > has no effect on the tension there, and maximal effect on the
> > tension 90 degrees away.
>
> Well, you've reduced the load on the structure by more than the
size
> of the hole.
>
> I guess punching a hole in the wall has a stress concentrating
effect
> around it; I vaguely recall it's about a factor of 3 for a circular
> hole. It's somewhat higher for a crack.
>
> > >speed cameras that increase the death rate<
> >
> > How does that work?
>
> Death rate goes up when they install cameras. Probably everyone
> stomping on their brakes on straight roads and getting rammed from
> behind and stuff.
>
> --
> -Ian Woollard
>
> Identity cards, cameras on every corner, long term detention
without
> trial, electronic tapping and reading of email/phone calls, speed
> cameras that increase the death rate, extradition for torture -
It's
> all double plus good, Big Brother Blair and Uncle Bush are my
friend!