help with a short story

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Thread: help with a short story

# 7597 bydinmont2@... on March 23, 2006, 11:43 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03

My novel is of the Genre Alternate History though the main character
does go back in time to change the course of history by maniupating
events.

I doubt anyone here would be much interested in it.

No such books on the US breaking from Britain too soon. Basicly the
Thirteen original colonies had reached the stage of having developed
both infrastructure and stable ideology. When Britain got heavy
handed, ties were duly severed. Mexico and South America were far
less stable as Spain simply worked on exploitation, sending colonial
officials interested in Gold and treasure with few people coming over
specificly to start new communities. When the Napoleonic wars
errupted, many South American colonies decided Expoitation Days were
over.

The North American colonies were in many ways totally different from
all other European settlements. They were establed not just for
wealth and exploitation but for Communities and new lives.

They did have two grievences among many. One, the famous No Taxation
without representation and Two, Many didn't like being a dumpting
ground for criminals. Benjamin Franklin actually wanted to ship them
back. Most criminals, then and now are hardly the wretched motivated
by poverty but are lazy greedy and not very bright. They hardly
helped the workforce despite the great opportunities available for
honest well paying employment. Some did but the historical record
isn't very positive. I mention them as being a good cause for
outrage that might spark revolution.

Many people leave their homelands out of alienation for what they
have lived through. We have the famous Pilgims of the Mayflower.
Huegenots settled areas that later became Canada. Many Zionists fled
Europe to settle Israil both out of fear of anti-semitism as well as
a sence of alienation with the cultures of the time.

As for science, well an alternative means for wreaking havoc from
space is simple, perhaps their specialty is trajectories. Launching
huge ore loads from the moon to the L4 and L5 regions for
construciton use. Or modifying the trajectories of comets or meteors
for the same purpose. Trajectories of such objects can be a means to
attack earth.

As for love, that is a good motive to start over. I do see home in
space as a possible rebirth of humanity.

Good luck.

--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "janet_baker76"
wrote:
>
> This was interesting help. You didn't plug your book, was it
science
> fiction?
>
> So she could have a conversation in which a Colonial Separatist
> tries to tempt her to--give him some detailed aerial photos of
> Washington, DC? He runs this rap about how they must secede from
> Earth? Heavy taxation, dumping ground for criminals, which is how
my
> own fathers got to the US, I believe (You know, this calls every
> modern revolution into question and we're not exactly used to doing
> that. But I'm not opposed, what the hey. I live in Mexico and just
> finished an interesting and plausible book that argued that Mexico
> left Spain way too early, no infrastructure, the cause of present
> ills. I wonder if there are any books that argue the same thing
> forthe US?) So she would be an aerial photographer, that works.
>
> As to the science field of her parents, seems like there would be
> less call for weapons specialists than say metalurgists in an early
> generation space colony. Would they even have open weapons
> specialists? I guess I'm presuming this colony would have been
> funded by a consortium of nations--but I guess allies, against
> another large block. (I am keeping the caution against this
scenario
> of another post in mind here.)
>
> Geneticists? Roboticists? Could programmers be the evilest of all?
>
> Because I want love to be the solution to this girl's ailment, her
> sickness will be confined to the alienation of womanhood/motherhood
> in contemporary culture, as defined by those who think it is so and
> wish whoever thought of the words "women's lib" would have kept
> their stupid mouths shut. (May I be the first to say on this list:
> men's wages should rise, rise enough to support a wife and kids if
> she chooses to raise her own kids her own self, and to hell with
> equality. But that's another story. But this one is about love,
> about being able to love, and to trust, and to start a large family
> to populate their own little personal world for many generations.
So
> somebody tell me about this habs, habitats? What's up with those?)
>
> Jsn
>
> --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "terrierkeeper"
> wrote:
> >
> > Having written and published a novel and am working several ideas
> > through, I believe these might be helpful.
> >
> > 1. I suppose the easiest would be Colonial Seperatists.
> >
> > It is the easiest. The Scenerio is Earth's government or
> governments
> > is getting heavy handed and mistreating colonists. Taxes could be
> > burdonsom. Perhaps the colonies are being used as a dumping
ground
> > for unwanted criminals and people are getting hurt. Perhaps your
> > character may have suffered such an incident.
> >
> > Otherwise, perhaps the terrorists are exiles and the old country
> is
> > having trouble that some earth nation is responcible for. The IRA
> > comes immediately to mind but there are others. Perhaps your
> > character had a bad encounter with security forces on earth.
> > Environmentalsts might be another group.
> >
> > 2. Is this something they did on earth or something they can do
to
> > earth?
> >
> > If it is something that they did to earth. Weapons engineers come
> > readily to mind. Otherwise the scenerio is said parents were part
> of
> > the energy program to create solar satallites that would beam
> cheap
> > solar energy down to earth but get their calculations wrong and
> burn
> > out a city or two.
> >
> > If this is something they can do to earth, the above also applies.
> >
> > Otherwise, I would sat if you want a terrorist threat to earth
> > Nuclear weapons are not necessary, just drop a big asteroid.
> >
> > 3. Any type of scientist and any type of person can get into a
bad
> > situation and be redeemed.
> >
> > 4. On this I have not a clue. Best guess for advise for
developing
> > your character is just look in the mirror. Having not read the
> book
> > you mention I can offer even less about the habitats.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "janet_baker76"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, space nuts,
> > >
> > > Would you help me with some questions so I can write a short
> story
> > > involving colonies?
> > >
> > > 1. The protagonist, a young woman, is tempted by and rejects
> > > cooperating with a terrorist initiative. I don't want a full
> blown
> > > terrorist event, I want them to be tempting her with an early
> kind
> > > of participation, like a political rally of some kind. What
> would
> > > their politics look like, in space? What would be an issue
> they'd
> > > take up?
> > >
> > > 2. What kind of scientists could her mom and dad be? I want
to
> > > portray them as the kind of scientist that managed to leave
> Earth a
> > > smoking hulk before the colonies finally got built, those for
> whom
> > > material progress was always the single only factor. What
branch
> > > would both be most needed on a space colony (think of the
> > economics)
> > > and also most easily suggest the kind of blindness I'm
> suggesting?
> > >
> > > 3. The protatgonist is save-able. She's a scientist, too. What
> > kind?
> > >
> > > 4. I want this protagonist to make a decision to overcome her
> > earth-
> > > trauma as a woman and actually let herself fall in love with a
> guy
> > > and go off with him to found the kind of family-trading
> dynasties
> > of
> > > Vinge's vision (Darkness of the Deep, etc). Would that be in
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