How to get to 10 trillion people in this solar system?

--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Omar E. Vega"
>
> Hi Robert:
>
> Space stations?, yes. Settlements?, I doubt it. To build a real
> settlement lot is needed to be done first. I guess the early chance
> of that will come in the second half of the XXI century. That's why
> I think 100 year is a good guess for a settlement of the kind we
are
> thinking about: one that could contain 10.000 people or more.

i cant see any station being built of that size without a permanate
population, and i beleive they will almost have to be built within
the next few dacades.

>
> Yes, they will. They were the main driven force behind the invasion
> of the Americas and there is not reason to believe they won't help
> to put man into space. If not religion, at least some kind of
mystic
> believes are needed to make people jump to space.

perhaps the jump into space will have some religious push, but can
you really tell me that a catholic based settlement would condone,
let alone push an artificial womb?
>
> Yes. No 'star trek' bio tech exists as yet. But conventional
> embrionic and genetic technology is enough for more of which is
> needed in space. Artificial wombs in particular are not here as
yet,
> however they would be very practical in space, and perharps even
> unavoidable. Zero G can have a disastrous impact in growing
fetuses,
> and all people in a settlement would be exposed to those conditions
> once in a while, so perhaps is better if kids grow in an artificial
> environment with constant 1 G. And artificial wombs research has
> already been done in Japan.

yes that might be near, but you were talking about turning asteroids
into the exact things you need efficency, that would require
something alone the lines of the replicators. those are not even on
the distant horizon yet. i dont beleive they will be here by that
point. a large part of the asteroid would be unusuable and many
things that are needed would have to be hunted for.
>
> I don't know if you get the news, but population has already beeing
> curved. In no time of history people have less kids per couple that
> in these times, even in Africa. The efforts have been so eficient
> that many populations are stared the path to extinction already,
and
> the few continents that are still happily growing will follow the
> same path in one or two decades more as much.
>
> In the future, if populations grow they will happened because there
> is a reason to do so. The space settlers will have that reason and
> certainly they will grow in numbers.

that is not as true as you might beleive. yes, in china, the
goverment is forcing a reduction, but when that goverment falls (all
die one way or another) the population will likely start rising once
again, unless the population has learned to curb itself. in other
place, like america, ppl are delaying parenthood more, but that does
not mean they will not have the children. some are deliberately
choising to not have children at all, but not the majority. when
they do start having children, they are as likely to have three
children than two. its the fact that the average family has more
than the two needed to replace itself that causes population growth.
personally i dont see the population decrease lasting long.
>
> Let's hope so. I preffer to believe the "end of the world" is just
a
> myth encouraged by the Adventists, and that mankind will have a
> better future.
>
the end of the world will come when those who are in control realise
they are holding a door that leads to an empty room and no one is
left that care about their world. its their world that will end, not
the earth.

as the saying goes 'the meek shall inherit the earth, the rest of us
are going to the stars'.