How to get to 10 trillion people in this solar system? Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: How to get to 10 trillion people in this solar system?
# 7888 bydehammer@... on June 8, 2006, 6:10 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
1) where does the waste go. if you push it back out into space, it
would be in the same orbit eventually it would be too clutter with
waste for safe travel. if it were put into other orbits it would
eventually be in someone elses way.
few centuries of this kind of waste to use up all the resourses of
our solar system.
--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, Darren wrote:
>
> Over the years I've heard, read, every kind of discussion in
relation to
> space habitats and for the most part people seem to assume that
habitats are
> going to need almost 100% recycling and it seems to me that this is
> unreasonable. In order to build a habitat you must have a decent
and cost
> effective space technology and it won't magically disappear. We can
send
> robot probes through the solar system now, by the time be have a
habitat in
> space our abilities will be more advanced.
>
> How about this, a habitat is being built and at the same time a
robot ship
> or even a manned ship is sent out to a small or not so small
asteroid or
> comet. A net or bag or perhaps just a motor and the entire rock or
the bits
> of it that you need are moved to the habitat, it should provide
enough raw
> material to let the inhabitants be as wasteful as they want to be.
If a
> habitat had a million people in it and each on used and disposed of
100
> kilos a day then they would use up one hundred thousand tonnes a
day, Ceres
> has a mass of about 8.7 X 10^20 kilograms, at that rate, even if
only 1% was
> usable you would still have a few million years before you ran
out. I have
> no doubt that a lot would be recycled and people would not be going
through
> 100 kilos a day but I think that they will not need to worry if
they only
> manage to get the same level of recycling as we do today.
>
> Of course with enough energy it is possible to break any compound
down to
> its constituent atoms and they should have lots of energy.
>
> Darren
>
> On 8/6/06 10:29 AM, "Douglas May" wrote:
>
> >> --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote:
> >>>
> >>> this is just a guess, but id hazzard a guess that there is less
than
> >>> 10 percent recycling in the US. in a space station, a minimum
of 90
> >>> percent would be required.
> >
> > For settlements around the earth 90% would probably do, although
> > importing ANYTHING from Earth will likely always be expensive.
When
> > settlements eventually move to the Kuiper belt and Oort cloud and
> > beyond, 100% recycling will be necessary since opportunities for
> > mining new materials will be unpredictable and unreliable and
> > resupply from Earth will be out of the question. I guess those
that
> > choose to go that far out will even have to consider the
implications
> > of recycling the valuable organic material in their deceased.
Since
> > they likely will have been in space for several generations with
no