satellite refueling and menstruation

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Thread: satellite refueling and menstruation

# 8200 byjanet_baker76@... on June 15, 2006, 9:39 p.m.
Member since 2021-10-03

Zeno, baby, I am for one law, the recriminalization of abortion.
See, I agree with you, very fundamentally: my body is mine, your
body is yours, and that baby's body is his or hers. As soon as you
deny that last person's rights, you open the door to deny the first
two people's rights, too. And that's what's happened since we made
abortion legal and profitable.

And also there's something so unbalanced about how it is now: a guy
has no call, the woman has the whole call. How awful it is, you meet
this person who represents herself as uninterested in parenthood,
she's safe, she's on the pill, you have sex, and the next thing you
know you're a paying dad for the rest of your life without any
choice in the matter. It's unjust. Neither ONE of youse guys should
have a call about whether the new human being lives or dies. Murder
should be criminal except in self defense. Everybody who has sex
should do so knowing that if a human being is conceived, that human
being has as much right to life as anybody else. It should be the
default position that human life is sacred, without qualification--
not age (preborn and toothless or post-profitable and toothless),
not sex, not nationality, not income.

Could you work with me on that?

Jan

--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophile"
wrote:
>
> Well Janet, if you aren't wanting to pass laws to MAKE women have
> babies, to MAKE men give up porn (women too; lots of women like
porn),
> to MAKE women not take some no-bleed pill, to MAKE... you get the
idea.
>
> As long as you are just advocating changes in behavior, and not
trying
> to slap us porn-loving birth-controlling heathans with the force of
> law, then I guess we don't really have a beef with each other. I
> mean, we can talk, and tell each other "you're wrong!" or
even "you're
> wrong about this, but you're right about that," but I don't
consider
> you an enemy for advocating something, even something that I find
silly.
>
> Of course, a quick look around here will show that I'm very big on
> women owning their own bodies, and on men owning theirs, for that
> matter. The whole tiff on longevity was based on the question of
> whether or not people should be able to decide for themselves how
long
> they should live. I disagree with Francis Fukuyama when he says
that
> such things are the provence of government, or of society at
large.
> How long I can live should be limited by my own choice only, though
> currently it is also limited by the current low state of the art in
> longevity tech. So it shouldn't be surprising that I feel that
> whether or not women menstruate should be up to them. If you want
to