satellite refueling and menstruation

It would appear that having the guy depend on the female to take care of things is RISKY as all get out... remember the old "trust everyone but verify mantra"...but how does one verify at the moment of passion? How many of us have had "wishful thinking" at that moment of truth...

simple solution, guy does V section... then, regardless of what partner of opportunity claims or intentions are, the bases are covered. End of issue.

Can a guy afford to have a kid or is ready for the commitment? Then the cost and effort of a V section reversal is reasonable threshold investment of time and money.

If memory serves, they are 88% effective through micro surgery to reverse...a more than reasonable ratio... and I believe one could STILL harvest directly from testes for artificial insemination if the tubes get too messed up.

Again the alternative is a 100% chance of pregnancy at the wrong time of the month... instead of 100% chance of NO consequence regardless of the time of month...no "accidents" no memory loss, no mistakes, no wishful thinking because of the moment of passion

solves all the whos body is it questions... guy doesnt wanna have his little guys start something without his full consent, then he has the right to control his guys and when they get released... no matter HOW much the partner claims the right to her body, it doesnt come an issue. No action unless BOTH parties (the guy through a reversal) agree.

From: janet_baker76
To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 5:37 PM
Subject: [spacesettlers] Re: satellite refueling and menstruation

Zeno, baby, I am for one law, the recriminalization of abortion.
See, I agree with you, very fundamentally: my body is mine, your
body is yours, and that baby's body is his or hers. As soon as you
deny that last person's rights, you open the door to deny the first
two people's rights, too. And that's what's happened since we made
abortion legal and profitable.

And also there's something so unbalanced about how it is now: a guy
has no call, the woman has the whole call. How awful it is, you meet
this person who represents herself as uninterested in parenthood,
she's safe, she's on the pill, you have sex, and the next thing you
know you're a paying dad for the rest of your life without any
choice in the matter. It's unjust. Neither ONE of youse guys should
have a call about whether the new human being lives or dies. Murder
should be criminal except in self defense. Everybody who has sex
should do so knowing that if a human being is conceived, that human
being has as much right to life as anybody else. It should be the
default position that human life is sacred, without qualification--
not age (preborn and toothless or post-profitable and toothless),
not sex, not nationality, not income.

Could you work with me on that?

Jan

--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophile"
wrote:
>
> Well Janet, if you aren't wanting to pass laws to MAKE women have
> babies, to MAKE men give up porn (women too; lots of women like
porn),
> to MAKE women not take some no-bleed pill, to MAKE... you get the
idea.
>
> As long as you are just advocating changes in behavior, and not
trying
> to slap us porn-loving birth-controlling heathans with the force of
> law, then I guess we don't really have a beef with each other. I
> mean, we can talk, and tell each other "you're wrong!" or
even "you're
> wrong about this, but you're right about that," but I don't
consider
> you an enemy for advocating something, even something that I find
silly.
>
> Of course, a quick look around here will show that I'm very big on
> women owning their own bodies, and on men owning theirs, for that
> matter. The whole tiff on longevity was based on the question of
> whether or not people should be able to decide for themselves how
long
> they should live. I disagree with Francis Fukuyama when he says
that
> such things are the provence of government, or of society at
large.
> How long I can live should be limited by my own choice only, though
> currently it is also limited by the current low state of the art in
> longevity tech. So it shouldn't be surprising that I feel that
> whether or not women menstruate should be up to them. If you want
to
> bleed, then by all means bleed.
>