Getting paid in space Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: Getting paid in space
# 8836 byjanet_baker76@... on Aug. 17, 2006, 1:59 a.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
The writer said, "diamonds are pretty," and left off their use as if
they didn't have any, but they are indeed extremely useful in
manufacturing. For example, tool and die: Tools, or forms used to
shape metal or other substance, plastic, for example,to make other
objects, are often tooled by a diamond wheel because of the fineness
of the cut and the hardness of diamonds against other metals. I
would venture that diamonds are more used for their use value more
than gold, but it may be that I have just not had enough experience
in electrical work to see it used as a conductor. (Husband was a
tool and die man.)
wrote:
>
> The same problem of moving the 'currency base' applies if it is
> platinum, gold or hydrogen ... physically, all are too massive for
> direct trade for other products, raw or manufactured. That is why
> specie--currency backed by 'real' value or the accepted word of a
> government to redeem the 'fiat' money--was developed in the first
> place. We have not had 'real' money since direct trading of one
> commodity for another was replaced with currency to show value.
The
> currency itself is only worth the paper it is printed on. Silver
or
> gold coinage are only worth the intrinsic value of the metals and
> any 'collector' interest in the coins. The 'money' value is
entirely
> dependent on what other people are willing to trade for
the 'money'.
> You pay your bills with cash, checks or e-transaction only until
> others decide that your money is worthless... witness pre-WWII
German
> Reichsmarks at over 1 billion per loaf of bread.
>
> With a decimal currency of luna.tic, based on anything, the value
is
> determined by the peoples trust that the backing commodity will
> retain its value. Gold is valuable as an electrical conductor and
as
> pretty jewelry, platinum is a valuable catalyst in various
chemical
> processes and as pretty jewelry, diamonds are pretty, hydrogen is
not
> pretty, but it is very useful and no one needs to store it in Fort
> Knox to protect it. Any commodities value will 'float' versus all
> others, i.e. stocks and bonds and international currency
> relationships, as well as hard commodities.
>
> The backing commodity is not 'money'. The peoples trust in the
> currency really has nothing to do with the backing commodity, only
> with the governments reliability to redeem the currency at the
then
> current rate for trade for whatever commodity the people want to
> purchase with the currency. And, of course, to protect the value
of
> their 'money' by preventing counterfieting.
>
> With a hydrogen based currency, as with any other base, any
intrinsic
> value is meaningless other than the ability to exchange the
currency
> for a certain amount of hydrogen. Say for instance that a tic is 1
> liter of hydrogen at 1 standard atmosphere of pressure. That tic
is
> also worth the appropriate amount of gold or platinum or diamond
or
> lamb stew or french fries or algebra lessons for your child. All
> currencies are the same ... fiat.
>
> --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "terrierkeeper"
> wrote:
> >
> > Problem with hydrogen. How do you move it about for transactions?
> > Plus fire it explodes. And with comets and other sources it is
very
> > easily acquired.
> >
> > Things like Gold do not have these problems.
> >
> > --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Lucio de Souza Coelho"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 8/16/06, harvey trevillion wrote:
> > > (...)
> > > > I favor using hydrogen as the basis of trade. It is useful
and
> > use-able ... burn your money for fuel or water. Call the decimal
> > based currency 'tic's, of which, 100 make a 'luna'.
> > > > Harvey
> > > (...)
> > >
> > > No doubt there will be specific cases where hydrogen will be
> > directly
> > > exchanged by something else. However, historically general-use
> > > currencies have been backed by rare (and therefore precious)
> > > commodities like gold. There was never a case of some useful
and
> > > use-able - though relatively abundant - commodity like, for
> > instance,
> > > oil being used for backing up currency.
> > >
> > > (Well, at least not directly. If all that talk about Iran
using
> > Euros
> > > instead of Dollars for pricing oil has some economic basis,
then