Getting paid in space Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: Getting paid in space
# 8837 bydehammer@... on Aug. 17, 2006, 8:23 a.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
a problem with diamonds is that the ones that are usefull are
industrial grade, usually manufatured ones. that means in economy
that uses them can easily have to deal with counterfeits.
wrote:
>
> The writer said, "diamonds are pretty," and left off their use as
if
> they didn't have any, but they are indeed extremely useful in
> manufacturing. For example, tool and die: Tools, or forms used to
> shape metal or other substance, plastic, for example,to make other
> objects, are often tooled by a diamond wheel because of the
fineness
> of the cut and the hardness of diamonds against other metals. I
> would venture that diamonds are more used for their use value more
> than gold, but it may be that I have just not had enough experience
> in electrical work to see it used as a conductor. (Husband was a
> tool and die man.)
>
> --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "hetrevillion"
> wrote:
> >
> > The same problem of moving the 'currency base' applies if it is
> > platinum, gold or hydrogen ... physically, all are too massive
for
> > direct trade for other products, raw or manufactured. That is why
> > specie--currency backed by 'real' value or the accepted word of a
> > government to redeem the 'fiat' money--was developed in the first
> > place. We have not had 'real' money since direct trading of one
> > commodity for another was replaced with currency to show value.
> The
> > currency itself is only worth the paper it is printed on. Silver
> or
> > gold coinage are only worth the intrinsic value of the metals and
> > any 'collector' interest in the coins. The 'money' value is
> entirely
> > dependent on what other people are willing to trade for
> the 'money'.
> > You pay your bills with cash, checks or e-transaction only until
> > others decide that your money is worthless... witness pre-WWII
> German
> > Reichsmarks at over 1 billion per loaf of bread.
> >
> > With a decimal currency of luna.tic, based on anything, the value
> is
> > determined by the peoples trust that the backing commodity will
> > retain its value. Gold is valuable as an electrical conductor and
> as
> > pretty jewelry, platinum is a valuable catalyst in various
> chemical
> > processes and as pretty jewelry, diamonds are pretty, hydrogen is
> not
> > pretty, but it is very useful and no one needs to store it in
Fort
> > Knox to protect it. Any commodities value will 'float' versus all
> > others, i.e. stocks and bonds and international currency
> > relationships, as well as hard commodities.
> >
> > The backing commodity is not 'money'. The peoples trust in the
> > currency really has nothing to do with the backing commodity,
only
> > with the governments reliability to redeem the currency at the
> then
> > current rate for trade for whatever commodity the people want to
> > purchase with the currency. And, of course, to protect the value
> of
> > their 'money' by preventing counterfieting.
> >
> > With a hydrogen based currency, as with any other base, any
> intrinsic
> > value is meaningless other than the ability to exchange the
> currency
> > for a certain amount of hydrogen. Say for instance that a tic is
1
> > liter of hydrogen at 1 standard atmosphere of pressure. That tic
> is
> > also worth the appropriate amount of gold or platinum or diamond
> or
> > lamb stew or french fries or algebra lessons for your child. All
> > currencies are the same ... fiat.
> >
> > --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "terrierkeeper"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Problem with hydrogen. How do you move it about for
transactions?
> > > Plus fire it explodes. And with comets and other sources it is
> very
> > > easily acquired.
> > >
> > > Things like Gold do not have these problems.
> > >
> > > --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Lucio de Souza Coelho"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 8/16/06, harvey trevillion wrote:
> > > > (...)
> > > > > I favor using hydrogen as the basis of trade. It is useful
> and
> > > use-able ... burn your money for fuel or water. Call the
decimal