Eros has landlords Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: Eros has landlords
There will be very enormous cost in fighting war in space? But will
they do it? Yes! The governments will rather spend billions of tax-
payer dollars in a war in space than to be flouted by some little
community of rebel citizens. To look at this from a historican
perspective, the American Revolution was very costly for the British,
as they had to cross a vast sea. China fighting war in Taiwan would
also be costly. It prompts you to ask the question, is it really
worth it? From out perspective, it is not. But from theirs, it is
an entirely different story. For a nation vying for the position of
being world economic and militaristic superpower, the cost is worth
it. I don't think governments will try to stop colonization when it
begins. Instead, I think that they will erect a militaristic
presence in space. The reason why is because the world powers now
believe that whoever controls the high frontier will be the
superpower. Plus, mining the asteroids can help the US become more
of a superpower. It is likely that the governments will exert a type
of regime over space that has much in common with "national
socialism". But hopefully, the colonists have enough sense to start
a revolution.
>
> You have just given one of the main reasons why the governments of
> Earth would try to stop space colonization. When it does start it
will
> become an American Colony situation. Any idea of fighting a war in
> space from Earth is fairly remote. The smallest self-sustaining
> colonies can be quite small and mobile. The cost of fighting such a
> colony enoromous and the cost of defending from stray asteroids to
> high. The supply lines could easily be 100 million miles, the time
> lines for the war into decades. In fact the Earth could win the war,
> anihialate the enemy and still end up extinct because the 1 mle rock
> that was set on a collision course twenty years earlier finally hits
> the planet after a generation of peace.
>
> If you were in the Pentegon whould you be trying to settle space?
>
> Bill
>
> --- In spacesettlers@y..., "Robert Reed" wrote:
> > If so, this could present a lot of conflict. Anyone ready to
fight
> > another "American Revolution" in space? Sure, many companies,
and
> > groups of individuals will claim asteroids for themselves. But
if
> > they build mining colonies on these asteroids, the Earth
> governments,
> > especially China, will try to exert rule over these colonies.
Think
> > about how China is trying to bully Taiwan into remerging back
with
> > the "motherland". China repeatedly makes threats of nuclear
warfare
> > against Taiwan, and has even pointed its missles at the island.
The
> > United States regularly exerts its sovereignty over the states,
many
> > times using authoritarian tactics. Certainly, companies that
decide
> > to do business in space will be subject to the laws of the nation
> > where their headquarters reside. Eventually, as the population
of
> > space grows, there will be enough economic leverage to move the
> > entire company into space. Not only that, but by this time,
groups
> > of individuals will be able to effectively pool their financial
> > resources in order to build communities in space. The trouble
> starts
> > when colonies and bases become self-sustaining. There will be a
> > period when these colonies will be able to thrive without
anything
> > from Earth. Naturally, they will become more detached from Earth
> > culture and Earth rule. Many nations on Earth will try to extend
> > their rule into space. The US Military, Russia, and China are
among
> > the nations that WILL attempt to do this. Space farers will not
> want
> > to take rule from Earthlings who do not know much about society
in
> > space. As a result, this could present conflict. And also, the
> > space colonists will rebel against corporations if they try to
exert
> > a type of authoritarian rule over them. So Earth governments are
> > best to leave people who move into space along, and allow "self
> > government." Companies such as SpaceDev, OrbitalDev, and Applied
> > Space Resources are paving the way for the future, and all plan
to
> > stake claims in space, with OrbitalDev already taking that step.
> > Maybe I should get a team together to send a probe to an
asteroid,
> > and stake my claim to it.
> >
> > --- In spacesettlers@y..., Ian Woollard wrote:
> > > Unfortunately under international law individuals and companies
> > > don't exist except as an extension of the government that they
> > > are subject to. This means that you can't actually,
legitimately,
> > > lay claim to any interplanetary body.
> > >
> > > Ed Minchau wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In spacesettlers@y..., "Ed Minchau"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> WASHINGTON -- The soft-landing by NEAR Shoemaker on Asteroid
> 433
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Eros has caught the attention of a group claiming they own
the
> > giant
> > > >
> > > > space rock.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Nemitz said his group filed a Class D property claim with
the
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Archimedes Institute last year. A "Claims Registry" at the
> > institute
> > > >
> > > > has been established to lower the cost of doing business in
> space
> > by
> > > >
> > > > helping to reduce the legal uncertainties associated with a
wide
> > > >
> > > > variety of space activities.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> more:
> > > >
> > > >>
> >
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/missions/near_claim_010214.html
> > > >
> > > >> http://www.orbdev.com/
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >> :) ed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As a private individual you too can file your own Class D
claim