Eros has landlords Forum: Spacesettlers
Thread: Eros has landlords
# 974 byshinryuu64@... on Feb. 26, 2001, 6:37 a.m.
Member since 2021-10-03
One can imagine the space farers saying to their earth
goverments, "All Your Base Are Belong To Us."
article: http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,42009,00.html
--- In spacesettlers@y..., "Bill" wrote:
>
> You have just given one of the main reasons why the governments of
> Earth would try to stop space colonization. When it does start it
will
> become an American Colony situation. Any idea of fighting a war in
> space from Earth is fairly remote. The smallest self-sustaining
> colonies can be quite small and mobile. The cost of fighting such a
> colony enoromous and the cost of defending from stray asteroids to
> high. The supply lines could easily be 100 million miles, the time
> lines for the war into decades. In fact the Earth could win the war,
> anihialate the enemy and still end up extinct because the 1 mle rock
> that was set on a collision course twenty years earlier finally hits
> the planet after a generation of peace.
>
> If you were in the Pentegon whould you be trying to settle space?
>
> Bill
>
> --- In spacesettlers@y..., "Robert Reed" wrote:
> > If so, this could present a lot of conflict. Anyone ready to
fight
> > another "American Revolution" in space? Sure, many companies,
and
> > groups of individuals will claim asteroids for themselves. But
if
> > they build mining colonies on these asteroids, the Earth
> governments,
> > especially China, will try to exert rule over these colonies.
Think
> > about how China is trying to bully Taiwan into remerging back
with
> > the "motherland". China repeatedly makes threats of nuclear
warfare
> > against Taiwan, and has even pointed its missles at the island.
The
> > United States regularly exerts its sovereignty over the states,
many
> > times using authoritarian tactics. Certainly, companies that
decide
> > to do business in space will be subject to the laws of the nation
> > where their headquarters reside. Eventually, as the population
of
> > space grows, there will be enough economic leverage to move the
> > entire company into space. Not only that, but by this time,
groups
> > of individuals will be able to effectively pool their financial
> > resources in order to build communities in space. The trouble
> starts
> > when colonies and bases become self-sustaining. There will be a
> > period when these colonies will be able to thrive without
anything
> > from Earth. Naturally, they will become more detached from Earth
> > culture and Earth rule. Many nations on Earth will try to extend
> > their rule into space. The US Military, Russia, and China are
among
> > the nations that WILL attempt to do this. Space farers will not
> want
> > to take rule from Earthlings who do not know much about society
in
> > space. As a result, this could present conflict. And also, the
> > space colonists will rebel against corporations if they try to
exert
> > a type of authoritarian rule over them. So Earth governments are
> > best to leave people who move into space along, and allow "self
> > government." Companies such as SpaceDev, OrbitalDev, and Applied
> > Space Resources are paving the way for the future, and all plan
to
> > stake claims in space, with OrbitalDev already taking that step.
> > Maybe I should get a team together to send a probe to an
asteroid,
> > and stake my claim to it.
> >
> > --- In spacesettlers@y..., Ian Woollard wrote:
> > > Unfortunately under international law individuals and companies
> > > don't exist except as an extension of the government that they
> > > are subject to. This means that you can't actually,
legitimately,
> > > lay claim to any interplanetary body.
> > >
> > > Ed Minchau wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In spacesettlers@y..., "Ed Minchau"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> WASHINGTON -- The soft-landing by NEAR Shoemaker on Asteroid
> 433
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Eros has caught the attention of a group claiming they own
the
> > giant
> > > >
> > > > space rock.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Nemitz said his group filed a Class D property claim with
the
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Archimedes Institute last year. A "Claims Registry" at the
> > institute
> > > >
> > > > has been established to lower the cost of doing business in
> space
> > by
> > > >
> > > > helping to reduce the legal uncertainties associated with a
wide
> > > >
> > > > variety of space activities.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> more:
> > > >
> > > >>
> >
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/missions/near_claim_010214.html
> > > >
> > > >> http://www.orbdev.com/
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >> :) ed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As a private individual you too can file your own Class D
claim