TAXES

> provide anonymity only to those who are willing to forgoe many of
> the convenieces of civilization - Ted Kaczynski, for instance.

I expect organized crime is a much larger source of cash
transactions than non-organized people like Ted.

--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Valens Agnitio"
wrote:
>
> The current net worth of just the U.S. is quite far into the ten's
of
> trillions, and only about 800 billion is in printed cash, perhaps
a great
> deal less. The vast majority of transactions in this country, and
indeed the
> world, are conducted electronically already, and have been for
some time.
> All substantiative transactions certainly are. Cash transactions
are
> trivial in comparison, and provide anonymity only to those who are
willing
> to forgoe many of the convenieces of civilization - Ted
Kaczynski, for
> instance.
>
> >From: Lucio de Souza Coelho
> >Reply-To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
> >To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [spacesettlers] Re: TAXES
> >Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:40:29 -0200
> >
> >On 11/16/05, terrierkeeper wrote:
> >(...)
> > > But I do believe, ONE of these days there may come the Cashless
> > > society with all transactions electronic in which Government
can tax
> > > automaticly its people. If a man is paid, income and Social
Security
> > > taxes automaticly deducted, along with any form of tax some
burocrat
> > > cares to assign. Buy something, sales taxes and value added
taxes.
> > > The there are government fees such as the Phone tax. Make a
phone
> > > call, a person is billed to fill governmetn coffers. That is
what I
> > > see.
> >(...)
> >
> >Maybe I was not clear... Perhaps there will soon exist a society
that
> >is officially cashless in the sense that all money will be
electronic
> >and therefore an easy prey for the government. Extra-officially,
> >though, in practice people will invent their own "cashful"
economic
> >system and informal economy that will evade completely monitoring
by
> >the government. BTW, some estimate that informal economy in Brazil
> >represents already over 50% of our PIB, which is clearly a
response of
> >the population to our abusive (for Third World standards) tax
load.
> >
> >In short, a government that overtaxes citizens is simply
condemning
> >itself to a slow death by starvation due to massive and
widespread tax