TAXES

> You think congress people have trouble keeping a budget since
> they're spending everybody else's money, get a credit card.
> They're a quick way to get into debt.

And now that the tax-and-spend liberals are extinct and instead
we've got borrow-and-spend conservatives spending everyone else's
money on credit, we find out that the two effects are more than
additive.

--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "terrierkeeper"
wrote:
>
> Much of what curently passes for 'civilisation' Sucks.
>
> Though I doubt this has relevence with any future Space Colony, I
> like to go off on my own and occasionaly indulge myself with an
> anynomous purchase. I must admit one thing the Internet has done
is
> the number of Book Fairs has gone down. The one at Timonium no
longer
> happens. I was rather looking forward to seeing if any of the Book
> merchants might be marketing my novel. Something to strike up a
> conversation with. I like the up close work world. None of the
book
> merchants marketing my novel I have sent e-mails to have returned
my
> messages. Not one has told me what they think of it. What people
> coming into their establishments who look it over think of it. I
miss
> casually chatting business of books with people who are
enthusiastic
> about their subjects. The internet and modern 'civilisation' are
> doing away with all that.
>
> Another good thing about Cash is that you see yourself spending
it.
> Which makes spending hard earned dollars painful. Many of the
kids I
> went to the local community collage spent themselves into debt
with
> their first credit cards. I like cash. I like writing checks. They
> give you the means to see your money go. Which makes it hurt.
Which
> makes keeping a budget easier than with a credit card or electonic
> mony. You think congress people have trouble keeping a budget
since
> they're spending everybody else's money, get a credit card.
They're
> a quick way to get into debt.
>
> --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Wylie-Sears"

> wrote:
> >
> > > provide anonymity only to those who are willing to forgoe many
of
> > > the convenieces of civilization - Ted Kaczynski, for instance.
> >
> > I expect organized crime is a much larger source of cash
> > transactions than non-organized people like Ted.
> >
> > --- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Valens Agnitio"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The current net worth of just the U.S. is quite far into the
> ten's
> > of
> > > trillions, and only about 800 billion is in printed cash,
perhaps
> > a great
> > > deal less. The vast majority of transactions in this country,
and
> > indeed the
> > > world, are conducted electronically already, and have been for
> > some time.
> > > All substantiative transactions certainly are. Cash
transactions
> > are
> > > trivial in comparison, and provide anonymity only to those who
> are
> > willing
> > > to forgoe many of the convenieces of civilization - Ted
> > Kaczynski, for
> > > instance.
> > >
> > > >From: Lucio de Souza Coelho
> > > >Reply-To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [spacesettlers] Re: TAXES
> > > >Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 19:40:29 -0200
> > > >
> > > >On 11/16/05, terrierkeeper wrote:
> > > >(...)
> > > > > But I do believe, ONE of these days there may come the
> Cashless
> > > > > society with all transactions electronic in which
Government
> > can tax
> > > > > automaticly its people. If a man is paid, income and
Social
> > Security
> > > > > taxes automaticly deducted, along with any form of tax
some
> > burocrat
> > > > > cares to assign. Buy something, sales taxes and value
added
> > taxes.
> > > > > The there are government fees such as the Phone tax. Make
a
> > phone
> > > > > call, a person is billed to fill governmetn coffers. That
is
> > what I
> > > > > see.
> > > >(...)
> > > >
> > > >Maybe I was not clear... Perhaps there will soon exist a
society
> > that
> > > >is officially cashless in the sense that all money will be
> > electronic
> > > >and therefore an easy prey for the government. Extra-
officially,