TAXES

> Not just liberals.

You can say that again!

--- In spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com, "Valens Agnitio"
wrote:
>
> To add a bit: The states rights issues mentioned were very
instrumental in
> perpetuating the slave trade in the U.S.
>
> >From: "Xenophile"
> >Reply-To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
> >To: spacesettlers@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [spacesettlers] Re: TAXES
> >Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:52:54 -0000
> >
> >--- In spacesettlers, "terrierkeeper" wrote:
> >
> > > Hate to be a Kill Joy on this but the United States
Constitution
> > > is the most restrictive of constitutions on the power of
> > > government.
> > > Unfortunately it left the Government the job of enforcing it.
> >
> >Well, the government oand the people who vote for them. The
courts
> >are not elected so that they won't be swayed by public opinion.
It's
> >really amazing that it has done as well as it has over more than
two
> >centuries, considering that it's main job has been to keep
American
> >free in spite of ourselves.
> >
> > > Liberal judges have taken to reading things into the document
> > > through 'evolving' standards giving government all kinds of
powers.
> >
> >Not just liberals. Any time a right-wing judge decides that the
> >Fourth Amendment(*) means that the cops can, in fact, do any damn
> >thing they like any damn way they like any damn time they like,
said
> >conservative judge is just as engaged in judicial activism as any
> >liberal ever hatched.
> >
> > > They routinely redefine their power. They have
redefined 'Cruel and
> > > Unusual Punishment'. Some are trying to redefine Marriage and
> > > Family.
> >
> >One wonders why government should have any power to define or
> >redefine Marriage and Family in the first place.
> >
> > > If I were to ammend it. I would first transfer tax collecting
to
> > > the states with the power to withhold what they collect when
ever
> > > the Feds get too big for their britches.
> >
> >Which means that the states would decide that the Feds were
getting
> >too big for their britches every time the states decided that they
> >wanted the movey for themselves. Which means that the Feds would
> >officially be too big for their britches all the time, no matter
what
> >they actually did.
> >
> > > Then I would give people the power to withold their taxes
whenever
> > > their state government gets too big for its britches.
> >
> >Which means that whenever I want to hold on to every last dollar,
I
> >simply declare the state to be too big for its britches, and the
> >roads don't get built.
> >
> > > At the same time I would certainly set up standards of Good
> > > Behavior by which Judges can be paid and hold office.
> >
> >Good Behavior has to be more "they make decisions I like."
Elsewise
> >they are nothing more than pollsters with power.
> >
> > > Ultimately, the only means to restrict Government is if People
take
> > > it upon themselves to do the job.
> >
> >Absolutely. Having a press that will DO IT'S JOB would help.
> >
> >(*) The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
> >papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
> >shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
probable
> >cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing